Arminianism & Calvinism issue to split over?

[loDebar]

I think you can stick a fork in this one, it is done
Me too, passed my bedtime.

McCree 79 you will have the Benediction

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[McCree79]

you were created without sin, then you sinned and God made a way to redeem you. God knew you would sin, but planned to reconcile .

Again for the 4th time.....not talking about original sin. God knows your actions.....you said He knows who will choose Him and by implication those who will not. If God knows you will deny Him. But creates you (generic you) anyway.....He created you knowing you would go to Hell.

You are creating a strawman with "Original sin" though it has not even been brought up.



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[McCree79]

choice was made in the belly of the whale

Jon 2:2

And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

God saved Him when He would not before this prayer.

Are you confusing conviction with election?

Oh know....conviction happens to the elect. They are convicted of there sins after regeneration they may resist for a given amount of time.....but the will repent

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[McCree79]

you missed the point

Nope....

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[SovereignGrace]

you were created without sin, then you sinned and God made a way to redeem you. God knew you would sin, but planned to reconcile .

David stated otherwise. Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.[Psalms 51:5]

 

[SovereignGrace]

Oh know....conviction happens to the elect. They are convicted of there sins after regeneration they may resist for a given amount of time.....but the will repent

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God knew beforehand that Jonah would reject His request, so He made a whale just for him. He then knew the whale would puke him out after Jonah used his free will and repented.

In loDebar’s theology, he has effectually emasculated God. In his(loDebar) theology, God is all-knowing, but a 98 lb weakling who can’t make anybody do anything.

 

[TCassidy]

They limit Christ's work why?

Why do you claim Particular Redemptionists limit Christ's work. We don't.

 

[TCassidy]

we seek and receive a pardon

"There is none that seeketh after God." Romans 3:11.

 

[Rockson]

What's his "training" got to do with it?
Some people read Scripture and believe it, and some read it and only believe the parts they like, it seems.
However, I remember when I believed as you do.

Well Dave in saying you remember believing as the other poster why shouldn't you get a response it's a shame you fell away from more accurate thinking. I'd kindly suggest playing the "Ive been there before" card doesn't prove you should have left.

" And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy." ( Exodus 33:19 )

Yeah but that statement from Exodus but more so in Romans 9 isn't left a blank as to who God will show mercy to. It's to whosoever will not seek righteousness by the works of the law but rather by faith. It's not you never know who God will show mercy to.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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