My analogy was focusing on one aspect of God's character. His foreknowledge of events. Just like an analogy about God being like a shepherd focuses on one part of His character. You applied my analogy to His omnipotence which is not fair to my analogy, or to the analogy about the shepherd for that matter.No, this is why arguing with you is a pointless exercise. You conjure up a completely bogus analogy and pretend it is reasonable.
I am well aware of the view which states: If God created it knowing it he must have ordained it to be. But that is merely speculation. The Bible never draws these man made logical conclusions. In fact, the Bible seems to be careful that God is not seen as being the one responsible for man's sinful choices though the logic of your human reason determines that he must.IMO, I'm guessing God does not live in linear time frames, but in order to make this understandable, I will express it that way: If God has perfect foreknowledge, He knows the consequences of every decision before He makes it. Therefore, He knew that Adam would sin, He knew that I would stub my toe when I was 5 years old, etc. By creating everything with this foreknowledge, He foreordained it to be true of necessity, since he could just as easily have chosen NOT to create everything, or to create things differently so as to spawn a whole different set of events.
If God knew you were going to stub your toe does that mean that God must have made that happen?
If God knew that Bill Clinton was going to commit adultery does that mean that God must have made that happen? You seem to argue that it does, which makes God a tempter of evil and responsible for sin. The Bible clearly denies this reasoning.
Permitting doesn't mean causing.Why does God permit the things He foreknows?
Working out all things for His people in know way indicates God complete control over all happening. I agree all things must pass through his premissive will, but again I deny that must conclusively mean God is the cause of all things.Because he works ALL things -- not just directed but permitted things -- together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. That right there should tell you that these things are foreordained.
I was showing the point that God, if He so desires, could know future events without "controlling" or being the one held responsible for them.It goes without saying that the fortune teller has no power over the future he/she foreknows, therefore your analogy is almost as ridiculous as your theology.
Your theology is what is ridiculous. You're willing to accept your self made paradoxes without accepting the true paradoxes of scripture which have to do with God's foreknowledge of events not necessiarly dictatiing his cause for those events. Since God is truly ominpotent He could have created a system in which he maintains his sovereignty while giving up some control to his creation. Afterall, we know that God allows the prince of darkness rule his world there must be some idea of God self limiting his control over certain events.