Army Raises Recruitment Age-Again

its not necessary to become a pastor to support preaching the gospel, as we all preach the gospel by the Christian life we lead.
Exactly...and it's not necessary to become a soldier to support the troops and the war.
If the American way of life is truly at risk, wouldn't it be irresponsible for you not to do your part and protect your family?
No, it would be irresponsible to just up and leave. I trust in God to take care of America and my family, and I don't believe the "American way" is truly at risk. Just because your sons decided to enlist with a family does not mean all should follow in their footsteps. I am on leave from work with a crushed foot and extensive nerve damage. I wouldn't qualify even if I wanted to. Hardly "chickenhawk". Are you a Foghorn Leghorn?

 

Your profile says you are SBC... if you give to your church (as you should) and your church gives to the missions program... then you give to missions. What is a little scary is that you might be giving to a church unaware that you are supporting missions.

Do you expect everyone to be? We have a crime problem in this country. Many people believe that the police ought to do something about it... doe that mean they should quit their taxing paying jobs and join the force? Same logic you are trying to foist on military service.

Like I said, they need me. I'll go... but I am way down the list of their needs.

I am losing weight though, thanks.

As for relatives of age... I really don't have any close to me. I only have one brother, 38 and diabetic. He has no children. My one brother in law is still in the SC NG and would go if called. The other brother in law is also a diabetic... and I have no idea what his position is on the war. My cousins are all older than me and I have very little contact or relationship with their children- although I heard one of them is going into the Air Force.

The others I know of in their 20's I haven't seen in more than 5 years... for all I know they spend their weekends protesting the war and wearing love beads.

That is simply an unreasonable position... and one that assumes that supporters of the war wouldn't actually go if they were told that they were needed.

 

RockRambler, are you avoiding my question?

 

Here it is

I feel that if one supports a war, if they are of enlistment age, that they should enlist if they truly support the war. </font>[/QUOTE]RockRambler – I suspected this was your way of thinking. Thank you for being bold enough to actually state it. However I find this type of thinking a bit removed from realism.

I thank your children for the service to our country; it is greatly appreciated and highly respected.

Before I assume your political views since I am not familiar with you as a poster let me ask…Do you support the war? </font>[/QUOTE]

 

Nope. I am forced to at the end of a gun. There are churches that don't support missions. Better yet, there are Independent churches that only support missionaries who they know.

That's sad. Is it really something so bad that you won't support those who are trying to reach people who have never heard the gospel?

Per Romans 7, doing what I would not... and not doing what I would.

Though Vietnam was different from Iraq... I would tend to agree with you about such a person... though I suspect they represent a minority.

OTOH, people change. Perhaps he has repented of that cowardice.

No problem... me too.

BTW, don't be too rough on the supporters. It may sound selfish but I support this war precisely because I think it is a small amount of preventive medicine compared to what appeasement would definitely bring in the future... perhaps costing the lives of my sons and many more.

In the early 30's, the allies could have sent a small force into Germany to enforce the armistice terms on Hitler. The costs in lives might have been in the thousands or even tens of thousands. They might have had to stay until a stable, sane gov't was established. It might have cost alot of money... but nothing compared to the carnage, death, destruction, and loss resulting from inaction.

I don't know that we can address every problem. But doing nothing is certain to fail with those fanatics.

Eventually someone is going to have to step up and help, we can't bear it all... the French interestingly in keeping with their rebellion against US influence and insistence upon zigging when we zag seems to be taking a hard line on Iran. I guess it makes them feel big or something.

 

Because I am not physically able. I have had asthma, and other medical problems, for much of my life. Otherwise, I was ready to join on 9/12/01, but after talking with several military members, I found out that I could not.

Most all people were supporters of WWII, but most of the men who fought had to be drafted. Why didn't they all just join voluntarily? Maybe it's because they had families etc here that they felt they had to support unless called upon to serve. Maybe that's the same situation today.

Thankfully, there are men in my family who are able and willing to serve in my place. I've got a cousin in the Marines who is requesting to be sent to Iraq, but they keep turning him down.

There simply isn't a high demand for new soldiers to be in a combat zone. Any of us who were to join now would more than likely end up being stationed in this country throughout our tour.

 

I would love to enlist too.

However, to put a gun in the hands of a blind man would be an asinine thing for the government to do, wouldn't it?

Yes, I am blind. I also have problems standing for more than 20 minutes due to BP dropping until I pass out.

Course, if I pass out, they don't have to worry about me shooting the wrong guy. lol

 

Despite all of my problems, if they were desperate enough to accept me in the military, and they'd have to be really desperate to want me, then I would join without a second thought.

If the terrorists or any foreign country were to invade the U.S., I would have a gun in my hand ready to defend my homeland, even without joining a regular army.

I have encouraged numerous men in my family to join, and continued the encouragement, through letter writing, care packages, etc, during their time.

If you use the argument that only those who have served may support the war, then I would argue that only those who haven't served can protest the war. It makes about as much sense.

 

I see you have little faith in the Lord by your comments.
I never claimed my wife was "poor". Lose the condescending attitude. My temporary disability may be permanent. Thanks for your caring attitude.

 

Moving this to politics forum.

Lady Eagle,
Moderator

 

APAL, your comments about OldRegular just demonstrate your desire to personally attack those with whom you disagree, even though they may not even be engaged in the debate, speaks volumes about your attitude and willingness to smear a person.

 

As a show of good faith I think Bush's two daughters and all the sons and daughters of Congressmen who support the war should enlist.

 

Actually, there should be universal military service for all 18 year olds, whether they support the war or not.

It's called citizenship. I personally believe that 18-year olds who refuse to serve two years in military service (with non-combat options) should lose the right to vote permanently.