GoodTidings
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But Romans 9 is about service, not about salvation. Every analogy Paul uses in that chapter has to do with a defense of God's sovereign use of Israel to accomplish His purposes. It has nothing to do with who is or is not saved.Romans 9
19You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25As indeed he says in Hosea,Scripture example of God’s authority and control.
“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’
and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’”
26“And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
He has the authority to make vessels.
Some vessels He makes are honorable, others dishonorable.
He has authority over the vessels use by calling some beloved leaving others.
Honorable and dishonorable vessels have to do with degrees of service. The potter analogy shows that potter is sovereign over the clay to make it into what he wants. The same lump of clay that could be made into a vase that sits in Buckingham Palace is also the same clay that can be made into a bed pan. It can be used for honorable or ignoble purposes.
God can use one person to be a great leader and someone else for lesser more humble purpose. God NEVER ordains anyone to Hell.
Paul refers to those who are vessels of wrath prepared for destruction. But in the Greek, God is not the one preparing them for destruction. The word "prepared" is in the middle voice. That means that it refers to what someone has done to themselves. Pharaoh made himself a vessel prepared for destruction. God did not create him that way.
So no, you still have NO passages that says God causes some people to go to Hell.