Assumption of Mary

[Inquiring Mind]

Have you heard about this ?

"Lifetime Virgin Mary, Perpetual Virgin Mary loved the world so much that she gave her only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Without Merciful Mary, the world redemption was absolutely impossible."

Is this what you want to claim ?

Nope. Where do you dig this garbage up from? Let me guess? Jack Chick?

 

[Chemnitz]

Catholic calls Mary as Mother of God, which implies that once she give birth to someone, that becomes God, thus call Mary as Mother of God, on top of God, Goddess producing God ( actually pagan gods).

That is incorrect.
Observe this is what is taught by a church which believes that Mary is the Theotokos

On account of this personal union and communion of the natures, Mary, the most blessed Virgin, bore not a mere man, but, as the angel [Gabriel] testifies, such a man as is truly the Son of the most high God, who showed His divine majesty even in His mother's womb, inasmuch as He was born of a virgin, with her virginity inviolate. Therefore she is truly the mother of God, and
nevertheless remained a virgin.
Formula Of Concord - On the Nature of Christ

Granting that the blessed Mary prays for the Church, does she receive souls in death, does she conquer death [the great power of Satan], does she quicken? What does Christ do if the blessed Mary does these things? Although she is most worthy of the most ample honors, nevertheless she does not wish to be made equal to Christ, but rather wishes us to consider and follow her example [the example of her faith and her humility]. 28] But the subject itself
declares that in public opinion the blessed Virgin has succeeded altogether to the place of Christ. Men have invoked her, have trusted in her mercy through her have desired to appease Christ, as though He were not a Propitiator, but, only a dreadful judge and avenger. 29] We believe, however, that we must not trust that the merits of the saints are applied to us, that on account of these God is reconcile d to us, or accounts us just, or saves us. For we obtain remission of sins only by the merits of Christ, when we believe in Him.
AAC - Concerning the Saints

 

[FundamentalOnly!]

I would have to say that the church fathers are very interesting, Polycarp was taught by John .


I think that all this pagan talk about Mary is silly, look to Luther, Calvin etc. and see how they honored Mary. Lets see what they said.


Martin Luther

In this work whereby she was made the Mother of God, so many and such great good things were given her that no one can grasp them. ... Not only was Mary the mother of him who is born [in Bethlehem], but of him who, before the world, was eternally born of the Father, from a Mother in time and at the same time man and God. (Weimer's The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 7, p. 572.)


" This immaculate and perpetual virginity forms, therefore, the just theme of our eulogy. Such was the work of the Holy Ghost, who at the Conception and birth of the Son so favoured the Virgin Mother as to impart to her fecundity while preserving inviolate her perpetual virginity."9

It is an article of faith that Mary is Mother of the Lord and still a virgin. ... Christ, we believe, came forth from a womb left perfectly intact. (Weimer's The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 11, pp. 319-320; v. 6. p. 510.)


John Calvin if you prefer.

It cannot be denied that God in choosing and destining Mary to be the Mother of his Son, granted her the highest honor. ... Elizabeth called Mary Mother of the Lord, because the unity of the person in the two natures of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary as at the same time the eternal God. (Calvini Opera, Corpus Reformatorum, Braunschweig-Berlin, 1863-1900, v. 45, p. 348, 35.)


Or Ulrich Zwingli

I firmly believe that Mary, according to the words of the gospel as a pure Virgin brought forth for us the Son of God and in childbirth and after childbirth forever remained a pure, intact Virgin. (Zwingli Opera, Corpus Reformatorum, Berlin, 1905, v. 1, p. 424.)


I dont know the offical position of the RCC on Mary, but I think that she was important biblical figure. Not for worship, but respect like we respect, Peter and Paul.

 

[BobRyan]

It is just a letter from an overzealous Pope. It is not a letter written ex-cathedra. this is 56 years old. ?

#1. The Excathedra reuse was not MADE UP until the 1900's by the RCC. So your statement is simply a Red Herring!

#2. IF you can IGNORE Papal statements then ALL OF CATHOLICISM is just "one man's opinion who just so happens to run the place".

#3. The RCC is WAYYYY older than 56 years AS are the mythical texts on the Assumption of Mary - what is your point??? Have you lost it entirely?

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

The "assumption of Mary" is a fabrication that fully demonstrates the lengths of the depraved mind can imagine once the "Sola Scriptura" foundation for doctrine is fully abandoned and the "traditions of man" taught as "doctrine" Mark 7:6-11.