attitudes on this board

To call someone "Milk Toast" is to call them wimpy; without backbone.

Brother Patrick is anything but soggy bread. He stand up for himself and others. That's putting yourself out there and in the open. His is an admirable quality, IMO.

But like some here Patrick too seems overly sensitive. Lighten UP, Patrick. Not everyone will have a shining opinion of you especially since you are out in the open with your feelings. IOW, when you place yourself out in the open, some people will take shots at you and use you as a target. Get over it already.

 

Talk about judgmental....... "troublemaker"??? "combative"???
"novice"??? And I thought I was sensitive.....

What's the scriptural procedure again for confronting a brother in Christ??? Take it to him first privately; and if he doesn't receive it, then go again to him with several others, to reaon with him; and finally take it before the larger group out in the open.

I'm thinking you might've missed a step in there somewhere. </font>[/QUOTE]Speaking of Church discipline, Billy...Plus, he never came to me with two or three more....so, he's out of line in his approach. As I stated on another thread to your snide remarks...don't like what I post, don't read it, it's as simple as that. The truth is, Patrick, for a minister, should know better and has been unethical and unscriptural.

 

"let me know when I'm being funny, m'kay?"

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I have to say that being in Alabama was like the difference between night and day. I felt comfortable being around strangers (they are my husband's relatives...I'm related, but didn't know them from Adam). I am usually freaked out about being around people I don't know...like being thrown in a pit of bulldogs. But, the south was different. I found myself relaxing and enjoying their conversation. I can't put my finger on it...if i could, I'd write a book and convert to southernism.

</font>[/QUOTE]I'd like to echo that 'Bama sentiment. I am a Northener who came south and stayed. (Southerners have a named for that but I can't mention it here. OH........ and it's all one word from what I understand. LOL).

Living in Georgia for the past 35 years, I always thought "Bamians" were backward hicks from the sticks and decided never to go there. Then, about 8 years ago I discoverd my families roots were from out of Sumter County, AL from 1819 to 1870. Sumter County is just East of Meridian MS on I-20.

Still I stayed distant to AL until my daughter married last year and set up homekeeping just south of Birmingham. Visiting there I learned that some of the nicest people on the planet live in Alabama. I was surprised to find that employers there actually pray with their employees and talk about God like he is their next door neighbor.

My new SIL is Georgia born and bred and has now been transfered to a new territory in SC and they will be moving. I am very sad that they are leaving Alabama as I really got to love that place and its people.

Oh and during that hurricane blow through last year??? They all banded together and helped each other like I have not witnessed here in Georgia I can tell you.

"Sweet Home Alabama".......... I now know what that means. It comes from the heart.

 

patrick, while I agree that you deserve an apology, I think AVL1984 deserves an apology for you making a private matter a public one. At the least, you should have made your initial post without mentioning his name or making it obvious who you were talking about.

I hope we can reconcile this in brotherly Christian love.


Edited for correct user: thanks Thankful.

 

Talk about judgmental....... "troublemaker"??? "combative"???
"novice"??? And I thought I was sensitive.....

What's the scriptural procedure again for confronting a brother in Christ??? Take it to him first privately; and if he doesn't receive it, then go again to him with several others, to reaon with him; and finally take it before the larger group out in the open.

I'm thinking you might've missed a step in there somewhere. </font>[/QUOTE]As I stated on another thread to your snide remarks...don't like what I post, don't read it, it's as simple as that.</font>[/QUOTE]Well now....... that's the first I've heard of my "snide remarks". Perhaps you misunderstood my intent. Perhaps too you might want to explain. But since you just seem to be a very angry and judgmental person maybe I should just consider the source and pass it by.

 

I'm on my way to Alabama, but most of the people I'll be visiting are from Oklahoma

 

I would not take it personally. This is a discussion board and we really don't know anyone that posts here. He or no one else can truly make a fair judgment of someone in "cyberspace." If he can't stay on topic and avoid name-calling, I would just ignore him. There's alot of weirdos out there sitting behind their PC's and making comments to others that they would not make to them face-to-face.

 

LOL......... you got to this at just the right timing........ I was about to laugh this one off and tell Patrick that what I said about being a target has come my way......

 

Sorry Billy. I had my wires crossed for sec there.

 

You are Welcome, Gold Dragon. I edited my post because I thought I had my wires crossed when I read other posts. I thought I was speaking out of turn. This can really get confusing, can't it?

 

I was reading the thread where this occurred, and it was pretty obvious to me that the comment was in jest - admittedlly I was not the one the comment was directed to.

In general I think that there are many people (I dont know patrick so I am not including him in this comment) that have their feelings hurt easily. these are your classic church hoppers, jump in full bore for a while, get their feelings hurt by some comment from someone, and move on to the next church.

Unless I am in a heated arguement with someone, or there is someone who has a history of barbed attacks against me (the biggest offender I have not seen around in quite a while), I tend to laugh off saracasm.

 

Woah -

How about a little Christian discernment folks!

First - Whether it came in private message or not, it was an improper way for a Christian to address another Christian.

Second - I'm not so sure it came in private first. I haven't had any private messages from Patrick, but I saw in on this board in another thread.

Third - Patrick came here and said, "How should you deal with this issue."

Now AV is making further insulting remarks about Patrick on THIS thread.

How about applying God's word to your personal lives folks?

How about applying the laws of God's church to this message board.

You remember the definition of a church don't you people? A gathering of the body of believers in fellowship? It is NOT "the brick building with the cross painted on it down the street."

This board is SUPPOSED to be a gathering of believers. Why don't you TREAT it like one?!

AV - You offended a brother in Christ. You should not try to make excuses for it.
You should not try to "make the brother look bad."
You cannot justify it.
Apologize and ask his forgiveness in Christ.

If you feel that Patrick has offended you by asking how to deal with it, go to him like the bible said. Someone in this very thread spelled out the correct way the bible teaches it.

And then, apologize to this board for turning a question like, "How DO you respond in a Christ like manner to this," into "Patrick is a trouble maker."

 

I am going to address this as to what to do about when someone on this Board makes one angry.

I sit on my hands That way I can't type.

Seriously, I try to avoid reacting. If I am really upset (not particularly angry), I will type out a reply and read it several times, before I post. Usually, I don't post. It really doesn't matter what that other person thinks.

When I was first on this board, someone wrote something that offended me and I reacted with an inappropriate post. Later, I realized that this person was not really being rude to me, but really had "tongue in check". From that time on, I tried to respond without reaction. I know it is difficult.

Just recently a poster was extremely rude to me. I decided the best thing to do was to ignore that person. Did that person "win"? I don't think so.

Ignoring some statements is the best way to handle them when becoming angry or feeling attacked.

Just my opinion. I don't like confrontation.

 

Thankful

That is great advice. I often write things down, expressing exactly how I feel. Once I see it in print, I usually say to myself, "I really don't want to say it like that", and so I will edit. It gives me time to reflect and sort of negate the "knee-jerk" reaction. Sometimes, I just decide not to respond at all.

 

If I offend someone, I'd like to hear about it in a private message where it can get squared away. I don't go out of my way to offend anyone, but some people can take me too seriously when I'm just joking in a loving way (and by the way, I don't joke around with people I don't care for...I ignore them unless they make a direct attack at me...then I will be direct and precise...no joking involved).

It's easy to misunderstand people when you can't hear their tone of voice or see their expressions. A simple private message can give the "offender" a chance to apologize and explain their intentions without causing a lot of public mudslinging.

 

Many of the problems crop up because often people do not read what is written. They read into the paragraph.

I keep in mind that this is not the real world, face to face, and words written are not often the same as words said.

Best to just ignore comments and avoid the people who so offend. It is my habit to simply write something and leave it go. I just don't want to go on and on and on with the same thing.

Cheers,

Jim

 

TS, you don't know the circumstances surrounding the comments involved, nor do you know the whole of the conversation. It might be wise for you to keep your two cents to yourself, especially since you seem to have a bone to pick with me anyhow. Pointing out "Patrick's" lack of ethics was not a sin, nor was it insulting. He did receive an apology via PM, and again, I think you should be minding your own business instead of trying to be a busy body. Patrick DID NOT follow scriptural guidelines, and that's all there is to it. So, how about not sticking your foot in your mouth again.

 

Um...ARE there any Scriptural guidelines to this issue, when dealing with a public internet FORUM? I thought those guidelines were for how you deal with issues in THE CHURCH. This is an internet site, not the church.

 

This post has nothing to do with any of the previous posts, other than to say that I wonder how many of the heated comments made on a computer screen would be said verbally in a face to face meeting?