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Automatic Salvation?

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Van

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More than poster seemed to indicate they believed when a lost person professed faith, the lost person is then automatically saved by God. In other words, if a lost person "believes," then they are automatically saved. No lost person who "believes" is ever not saved. God does NOT decide whether the lost person's "belief" meets His criteria for election to salvation.

But that view is a destructive heresy. God says salvation does not depend upon the person who wills to be saved or does something to be saved, but upon God's mercy. (Romans 9:16)

The lost person's belief and devotion to Christ is the prerequisite for God crediting that faith in the truth or not. That lost person's faith does not in any way merit or earn salvation, God is NOT required to accept it as meeting His sovereign purpose.

If a lost person chooses to NOT trust in Christ, they have no illusion of salvation according to our gospel. But if a lost person chooses to believe on and trust in Christ, they might think they are saved, and therefore stop seeking the Narrow Door, hence a destructive heresy. Faith without real commitment will NOT get it done. As James taught dead faith must be tossed and live faith sought. It is not the adjoining works that saves, but the deep commitment that brings faith to life.
 
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John 20:31, But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

1 John 5:9-13, If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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37818 said:
John 20:31, But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

1 John 5:9-13, If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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@37818 you might as well talk to a wall as to talk to Van. His mind is made up so no need to confuse him with scripture.

A person has to hit the Van standard before God is allowed to save.
 
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Van

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37818 said:
John 20:31, But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

1 John 5:9-13, If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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Totally off topic, the issue is who decides whether or not, a person believes such that God then chooses to transfer the person spiritually into Christ.
 
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Van

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kyredneck said:
ROFL!! Pot, meet kettle.
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The suggestion I post anything like Mr. Silverhair, is a wicked perversion of truth.

Pay no attention to those intent upon derailing any discussion of scriptural doctrine, into a personality food fight. The behavior is demonic.
 
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Van

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Folks, now I count 8 posts, including 3 of my own, totally off Automatic Salvation.

Do they believe we are automatically saved when we profess belief, or does God decide whose faith to credit as righteousness?

Are there any posters willing and able to give an account for what they believe? Time will tell.
 
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