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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Martin, Mar 25, 2007.

  1. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
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    I don't have a problem with it...but then I think your definition of sin is at issue. Some Satriannia is great for working on stuff. Personally metal isn't my thing, but then again neither is rap or country.

    Here is the thing that Christians for ages have absolutely gotten wrong. There is no such thing as "Christian music" or "Christian rap" or "Christian rock" or "Christian bands." That is a misnomer.

    Rather we have bands of Christians, music done by Christians, we have some music that has Christianesque lyrics, we have ubran artists who through a Christian motif express themselves poetically. You can't take music and suddenly sanctify it by adding the appropriate number of JPM (Jesuses Per Minute.) Chords and melodies and the lividity of performance are no measure of the religious litimus test of a song.

    I know a guy who is deadset against any music with a beat. Says it is "of the devil" and won't ever listen to it...yet his entire argument is based out of a theological/philosophical preference and has no basis for dogmatism or foundational belief. Yet he is perfectly comfortable to listen to his baroque music (that has meter but not a beat) and not recognize that the diminished third chord that the composer just used was supposedly "of the devil" five hundred years ago in the church world. It's an issue of preference not dogmatism.

    Personally I think U2 is far more evangelical than most "CCM" bands out there. I also prefer to listen to Dave Matthews over Signature Sounds (I break out in hives when I hear a two beat and one, four, five chords repeat ad nauseum.) ;) It my preference to take and appropriate supposedly secular music and blend it into my talks and connect with people around them. But it is my preference. I respect those disagree with me but don't belittle them.

    Sin is not what you are making it out to be, it is something far more critical than these silly little dogmatic distinctions of preference. :)
     
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  2. tinytim

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    Where in the Bible does it list styles as sin?

    That style is not sinful... it is talented.. I would love to play my electric guitar that good...
    It sounds alot better than the twanginess of bluegrass... (Just my opinion... don't crucify me..)
    But having played country and rock, It takes much more talent to play rock.. Country all you need is a twang and 3 Chords!

    Music is amoral...
    The things that go along with it is what makes it sinful...
    Lyrics, clothing (tight, or revealing), lifestyle of musicians, etc.

    But when I play the opening guitar solo to "Sweet child of mine" I am not sinning... it is just notes put to time done in a talented way.

    Or what about the music behind Ozzy's "Goodbye to Romance" that he took from a classical song...

    When I play those chord progressions, am I sinning?... nope. I am playing them for the glory of God. I have even used those chord progressions in a praise song.

    Music is music...
    notes and time.

    Again unless you can show me it is a sin, then all we have are opinions.
    And one person judging another for not being as righteous as themselves...

    Now that is a sin... Romans 14
     
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  3. Rufus_1611

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    I guess the question would become which Satriani is good for working on stuff and which is sinful? Is it alright to listen to "Always with me, Always with You", "Ice 9", and "Flying in a Blue Dream" but "Hill of the Skull", "Devil's Slide" and "Borg Sex", I hope all Christians would agree are sinful. Satriani also has a song called "War" on "Extremist" that is an excellent example of how music is a language for it is clear what the song is about without knowing the title. You may not understand the spirit of the muse but all music is communicating something.

    I would disagree that there is no such thing as "Christian Music". The Bible tells Christians to sing hymns, psalms and spiritual songs so there is a type of Christian music out there, the boggle is discerning which music meets this criteria.
     
  4. corndogggy

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    I can show you an insane number of rock songs that only has 3 chords, and I can show you almost as many country songs that I'd be extremely surprised if you could play correctly. :) It's all the same. You can go as crazy as you want with any style, but as a whole, fast bluegrass is some of the hardest stuff you'll ever run across.
     
  5. tinytim

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    Ok I submit corndoggy is right...
    I just don't like bluegrass.
     
  6. webdog

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    No. Why is that scary?

    Would it be scary if I like a piano...or harp...or violin? What difference does it make if I like the sound of drums and electric guitars?
     
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  7. Martin

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    Still waiting...
     
  8. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    It was not me, Martin. I have never visited your 'blog', nor any other 'blog' from other members on any forums i am a member of.

    Had I vistited and left a message, it would have been something that lined up with Scriture.
     
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    Wow, what pride...
     
  10. Martin

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    ==I am not saying who "Dq" maybe because I have no clue. I am just waiting to see if they are willing to identify themselves here and have a real discussion. From the tone of the comment I honestly doubt they will do that but I have been wrong before.
     
  11. jshurley04

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    Music Styles

    Absolutely not, there are not any words to give morality to the music. Music is amoral. It is not positive or negative outside of the lyrics. It is the lyrics that determine morality in music.
     
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