Bacon eaters! Do you see?

[BobRyan]

You must have an odd way of expressing yourself Bob. In 19 pages I have not read a coherent response from you as to the simple questions:


1. In Deut.22:11--How did the Israelites keep this command.

2. How do you keep this command in this day and age? Can you give some practical examples.

I have not seen any simple answer to this question. Without going down various rabbit trails, can you just give a simple answer.

So I gave you a summary of a few of my posts providing the answers - time after time.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1543056&postcount=162

And also my last post stated the answer as well - differentiating between one woven cloth vs layered clothing. It is a pretty simple topic.

What am I missing - where is the difficulty in reading that answer?

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Bob, you can end the discussion simply by offering practical concrete examples of how you personally keep Deut 22:11 in your day to day life.

I don't understand why you fail to do so in the face of repeated requests for the same.

Try reading my posts -

Here is one where a did the work for you - going to my prior posts and showing where I have answered this question - JUST as I answered in my last two posts. "again".

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1543056&postcount=162

in Christ,

Bob

 

[DHK]

So I gave you a summary of a few of my posts providing the answers - time after time.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1543056&postcount=162

And also my last post stated the answer as well - differentiating between one woven cloth vs layered clothing. It is a pretty simple topic.

What am I missing - where is the difficulty in reading that answer?

In Christ,

Bob

Bob, This is not an answer:

There "again" I show how this is kept not only by me - but by a lot of people simply because the wool-linen problem is not a common one to find in stores for most of us. The paucity in logic that tries to delete Lev 11 with Deut 22 while clinging to Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor" in a truly "pick-and-choose" anti-Bible methodology - remains glaringly obvious to the objective unbiased reader.

It is avoiding a direct answer to the simple questions I asked you in the previous post? Do you need another language perhaps? Why the difficulty in answering simple questions. Targus just agreed with me. You haven't given a simple answer to a simple question. What is the problem?

 

[targus]

Bob, when you buy an article of clothing - either wool or line - do you always read the label?

Even if you read the label - how do you know that a wool article is not sewn together with a linen thread?

Or that a linen article is not sewn together with a wool thread?

What day to day steps do you take to ensure that you are not transgressing Deut 22?

 

[BobRyan]

So I gave you a summary of a few of my posts providing the answers - time after time.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1543056&postcount=162

And also my last post stated the answer as well - differentiating between one woven cloth vs layered clothing. It is a pretty simple topic.

What am I missing - where is the difficulty in reading that answer?

Bob, This is not an answer:

How so?

I essentially did your work for you - going back through my posts and collecting the details showing not only that I repeatedly affirmed the Deut 22 text but also that I gave the details on how it is kept.

And then giving examples from my own wardrobe of how it is kept.

This "Pretend you can't see the post" defense is not holding up to the details of the thread.


But what is far worse for your entire line of questioning is that even if I HAD NOT given you those answers (such that now you are without any excuse at all) you STILL were at a dead stop because "I dishonor my parents and that is ok - since I know a john williams that covets some days" is NOT a Bible position on anything!

It is only your recent efforts to try and come up with an actual Bible case (from Eph 2:14-15 for example) that represents an actual Bible position (though I think a careful study of the text that I provide here - shows your position to be in error - AT LEAST it is a Bible position rather than simply toying around while making stuff up).

Targus just agreed with me

You have a point - that other baptists have joined in that non-Bible solution AS IF they were taught to ignore sola-scriptura Bible testing and simply limit themselves with non-Bible "gaming" of the "dishonor parents because somebody else may have ever coveted" nature. Surely there would have been ONE baptist who would stand and be counted and say "hey wait a minute! That is no Bible position at all!".


in Christ,

Bob

 

[targus]

You have a point - that other baptists have joined in that non-Bible solution AS IF they were taught to ignore sola-scriptura Bible testing and simply limit themselves with non-Bible "gaming" of the "dishonor parents because somebody else may have ever coveted" nature. Surely there would have been ONE baptist who would stand and be counted and say "hey wait a minute! That is no Bible position at all!"

I don't understand, Bob.

How is asking how you keep Deut 22 a no Bible position?

Are your beliefs merely theoretical?

Or do you conduct your life accordingly?

So how about answering a couple of simple direct questions?

When you buy an article of clothing - either wool or line - do you always read the label?

Even if you read the label - how do you know that a wool article is not sewn together with a linen thread?

Or that a linen article is not sewn together with a wool thread?

What day to day steps do you take to ensure that you are not transgressing Deut 22?

 

[Tom Bryant]

So has anyone changed anyone's mind on this yet? :laugh:

 

[Amy.G]

So has anyone changed anyone's mind on this yet? :laugh:

Yes. I really appreciate bacon more than ever. YUM!

 

[Tom Bryant]

Me too... and I've been having an increased desire for a diseased rat sandwich! If fixed properly, it tastes like .... diseased rat!

 

[Amy.G]

Me too... and I've been having an increased desire for a diseased rat sandwich! If fixed properly, it tastes like .... diseased rat!

I've heard it tastes like chicken. :laugh:

 

[BobRyan]

There are some people in Isaiah 66 who apparently thought the same thing!

 

[targus]

There are some people in Isaiah 66 who apparently thought the same thing!

Bob, let's say that you have convinced me and I want to be sure not to transgress Deut 22?

I have a whole closet full of clothes - what do you recommend I do?

 

[BobRyan]

But what is far worse for your entire line of questioning is that even if I HAD NOT given you those answers (such that now you are without any excuse at all) you STILL were at a dead stop because "I dishonor my parents and that is ok - since I know a john williams that covets some days" is NOT a Bible position on anything!

It is only your recent efforts to try and come up with an actual Bible case (from Eph 2:14-15 for example) that represents an actual Bible position (though I think a careful study of the text that I provide here - shows your position to be in error - AT LEAST it is a Bible position rather than simply toying around while making stuff up).

I don't understand, Bob.

How is asking how you keep Deut 22 a no Bible position?

hint: Since I am not "your pope" - what I do or don't do has nothing at all to do with whether you can toss Lev 19:18 out the window, or toss Lev 11 out the window - or even toss Deu 22 out the window.

That is the easy part.

Hence the Deut 22 argument is really another form of - "I dishonor my parents and that is ok - since I know a john williams that covets some days"

Which of course is a non-Bible position. (Might work though if John Williams was our pope)

So why are Baptists resorting to a dark-ages almost-RC style argument?

It makes no sense.

Are your beliefs merely theoretical?

Or do you conduct your life accordingly?

Mine are real. There are 66 books in my Bible. And as I said - that includes Deut 22.

But is it your argument that you have been asked to "judge me" in order to see if YOU are supposed to honor God's Word??

What day to day steps do you take to ensure that you are not transgressing Deut 22?

Hint - the clothes I wear come with tags from the manufacturer stating that they contain 100% wool - or not.

But as I said above - that is simply a "rabbit trail" for your non-Bible approach - since I am not your pope -- and therefore you have no "excuse" in any part of God's Word based on my efforts or failure to comply 100% with something God said.

Your resort to the papal option is confusing - given that you are Baptist.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[targus]

Hint - the clothes I wear come with tags from the manufacturer stating that they contain 100% wool - or not.

Finally, an answer !! How refreshing !

So then you only wear 100% wool clothes?

What about the thread that is holding the pieces together? How do you know that it's wool?

What about in the summer? I doubt that you wear wool when it's 85 degrees out. What then?

 

[DHK]

So has anyone changed anyone's mind on this yet? :laugh:

No, Bob refuses to answer a straight forward simple question.
As a typical SDA, he will never answer it, not even at death's door.

 

[Tom Bryant]

Isn't that what normally happens with cultists?

 

[luke1616]

The law is not made for a righteous man. Have faith, and eat.

 

[Bone]

I'm not a wilderness wandering Isrealite to be set aside from all other nations so...pass the ham and bacon sandwiches with a side order of fried Gulf shrimp! Christ himself said I could.:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Heavenly Pilgrim]

Bone: I'm not a wilderness wandering Isrealite to be set aside from all other nations so...pass the ham and bacon sandwiches with a side order of fried Gulf shrimp! Christ himself said I could.

HP: What if you were sitting next to a fellow believer that you knew felt differently about it, that might be offended by your liberty? What might Christ instruct us to do in such cases or is nothing said concerning such instances?

 

[Tom Bryant]

HP: What if you were sitting next to a fellow believer that you knew felt differently about it, that might be offended by your liberty? What might Christ instruct us to do in such cases or is nothing said concerning such instances?

I am always hearing about the fellow sitting next to me ... But I have never met one of them who admits to being "the weaker brother". They always think they are being the stronger believer because they refuse to eat or whatever. Where are these weaker brethren who are offended by my meal of pulled pork?

A few years ago, my wife and I ate with a non-believing Jewish couple. I chose not to eat bacon in front of them because they were Jewish. When it came time for them to order, he ordered a sausage and cheese omelette. I immediately changed my order.:thumbs: