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KenH

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This is excellent. A 19 minute video about many of the problems with modern day religion.

 

Van

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Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.
 

HatedByAll

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One sign of Bad Religion that is obvious with many preachers today is their lack of using the Scriptures in proving their points. When someone uses generalities about what they disagree with and then insinuate there is a "better way," but leave you wondering what the "better way" is, what good is the message.

A good message is one that refers to the Word. If something is "Bad" show why it is bad by contrasting it to a passage from the Bible. The main reason I don't listen to popular preachers like Joel Olstean and Joyce Meyers is, when I have listened to them, the only thing that stood out to me about their preaching, was their lack of using the Word.

An excellent message, no matter the subject is one that expounds on the Word. Otherwise, it might as well be a reply on a message board (just like this one of mine. :Whistling)
 
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CalTech

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Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.


Greetings,

You know what you are describing is exactly what you are guilty of.
"Self-righteousness", "prideful disdain for biblical truth", and your "hateful behavior toward's those who proclaim biblical doctrine".

One in glass houses should not throw "boulder's"..........what you sow you shall reap.

In His Love.....
 

Van

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Greetings,

You know what you are describing is exactly what you are guilty of.
"Self-righteousness", "prideful disdain for biblical truth", and your "hateful behavior toward's those who proclaim biblical doctrine".

One in glass houses should not throw "boulder's"..........what you sow you shall reap.

In His Love.....
Liberals love to charge others with their malfeasance.

Did CalTech answer the question of how the human spirits prayed to God if unable to seek God, or did he show "prideful disdain for bible truth?

Did CalTech demonstrate "hateful behavior toward me." I addressed the fruit of Calvinism, not any individual, but in response, I was charged individually.
 

JesusFan

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Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.
Calvinism teaches best from the biblical account of proper Sotierology!
 

JesusFan

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Greetings,

You know what you are describing is exactly what you are guilty of.
"Self-righteousness", "prideful disdain for biblical truth", and your "hateful behavior toward's those who proclaim biblical doctrine".

One in glass houses should not throw "boulder's"..........what you sow you shall reap.

In His Love.....
Van is very consistent on his many tirades against Calvinism and we Calvinists here!
 

JesusFan

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Liberals love to charge others with their malfeasance.

Did CalTech answer the question of how the human spirits prayed to God if unable to seek God, or did he show "prideful disdain for bible truth?

Did CalTech demonstrate "hateful behavior toward me." I addressed the fruit of Calvinism, not any individual, but in response, I was charged individually.
Are we Calvinists theological liberals then Van?
 

CalTech

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Liberals love to charge others with their malfeasance.

Did CalTech answer the question of how the human spirits prayed to God if unable to seek God, or did he show "prideful disdain for bible truth?

Did CalTech demonstrate "hateful behavior toward me." I addressed the fruit of Calvinism, not any individual, but in response, I was charged individually.


Greetings,

"IF" this was done as you have stated, then please show me where I did not "answer the question of how the human spirits prayed to God if unable to seek God" also please reveal where I "demonstrated hateful behaviour toward me"(you)" when you "addressed the fruit of Calvinism, not any individual, but in response, I was charged individually"

I desire to see your proof of this, please.....quote per quote.

Let us remember what the Lord stated "that we need to present ALL things honest to ALL men".
Thank you.....

In His Love...
 

CalTech

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Van is very consistent on his many tirades against Calvinism and we Calvinists here!


Greetings,

I understand, "VAN" seems to have a problem hearing me state, I LIE NOT! I am NOT a Calvinist, I do not read from Calvin's writings, I have heard about "Calvin".....though I do not believe in the "Free will" false teaching, I learned this from the Lord Himself, and not from any man!
If Calvin taught against the Free Will lie, then good! That is what I believe, but not by him.

So it does no good to bring up the subject of Calvin and Calvinism, because I could care less what they think or what he wrote. I follow NOT after any man.
So it truly is all Van's problem, because he refuses to hear.......and I will not strive with a person who does not know the meaning of meekness, humility. He loves arguing for argument sake......

The Lord bless you....
In His Love....
 

Van

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Calvinism teaches best from the biblical account of proper Sotierology!
Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.
 

Van

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Greetings,

"IF" this was done as you have stated, then please show me where I did not "answer the question of how the human spirits prayed to God if unable to seek God" also please reveal where I "demonstrated hateful behaviour toward me"(you)" when you "addressed the fruit of Calvinism, not any individual, but in response, I was charged individually"

I desire to see your proof of this, please.....quote per quote.

Let us remember what the Lord stated "that we need to present ALL things honest to ALL men".
Thank you.....

In His Love...
LOL, still no answer but yet more denials of the obvious. Now I get the hateful behavior times two.
 

JesusFan

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Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.
You just described the non calvinist emergence church and post modernism church in America!
 

Van

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You just described the non calvinist emergence church and post modernism church in America!
LOL, what nonsense. Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.
 

JesusFan

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LOL, what nonsense. Calvinism is today's bad religion. The fruit is "self righteousness, prideful disdain for biblical doctrine, and hateful behavior toward those who proclaim biblical doctrine.
Calvinists have a destain for YOUR understanding of what the doctrines of the bible are!
 

Van

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Calvinists have a destain for YOUR understanding of what the doctrines of the bible are!
Yes, you claim your views are biblical and your opponents views are unbiblical. But I provide specific scriptural support.

For example, it was falsely asserted a fallen human spirit (dead in its trespasses) could not seek God, but Mark 14:38 indicates human spirits were praying not to come into temptation. Thus Calvinism repeatedly demonstrates disdain for actual biblical teachings.
 

KenH

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Yes, you claim your views are biblical and your opponents views are unbiblical. But I provide specific scriptural support.

For example, it was falsely asserted a fallen human spirit (dead in its trespasses) could not seek God, but Mark 14:38 indicates human spirits were praying not to come into temptation. Thus Calvinism repeatedly demonstrates disdain for actual biblical teachings.

In Mark 14:38 Christ was speaking to three of His apostles, men who were already regenerated.

Just before that they had separated from the other 8 apostles, who were also already regenerated.

Mark 14:33 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John,
 

KenH

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So it truly is all Van's problem, because he refuses to hear

Yes. Even though Van himself defined a Calvinist as one who does not think that God is the author of sin, and even though I told him I do not take that position and that, the Lord willing, I hope to study on it at some point in the future, he still insists on calling me a Calvinist, even though I am not a Calvinist by his own definition.
 

Van

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In Mark 14:38 Christ was speaking to three of His apostles, men who were already regenerated.

Just before that they had separated from the other 8 apostles, who were also already regenerated.

Mark 14:33 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John,

Once again we get the Calvinist false claim people were made alive (regenerated) before Christ paid the ransom. When does scripture say we who are dead in our trespasses are made alive? When God sets us apart in Christ, thus "made alive together with Christ." When are people made perfect? When they are sanctified, which means when God sets them apart in Christ. When do people undergo the washing of regeneration? After they are placed spiritually into Christ.
 

CalTech

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LOL, still no answer but yet more denials of the obvious. Now I get the hateful behavior times two.


Greetings,

And there we have it........evasion......typical of a carnal Christian......
Just another "accuser of the brethren"......


In His Love.....
 
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