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Baptists’ Bible Use

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by rlvaughn, Jun 6, 2018.

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  1. Martin Marprelate

    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    I thought the ESV was popular in the USA.
    Here in Britain, two of the churches I preach at occasionally have switched recently from the NIV to the ESV. Last week I preached from the ESV for the first time.
     
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    I use NKJV and NASB most of the time. Our church officially switched to HCSB just in time for CSB to obsolete it.:Laugh
     
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    I use the KJV, NASB, and NIV; I have the CSB on my phone. I have the Holman and the NKJV, and Iike the Holman. I consider the KVJ to have been written in modern English, and Tyndale said that he wanted the English ploughboy to know more Scripture than the Pope, which turned out to be easy to do.

    For help I like Matthew Henry Complete and all the usual dictionaries. For a concordance, Cruden's by Alexander Cruden. Also, I am a YEC (Young Earth Creationist) and use their online articles.
     
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    Christianity Today - NIV vs. KJV: Surveys and searches suggest the translation that most Americans are reading is actually not the bookstore bestseller
     
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    I am not aware of any research to support Bible version usage. Any thoughts I share are anecdotal and based on observation. That said, I have noticed many church members mimicking the pastor's version, if only because it provides a level of consistency. The ESV seems to have made strides in Calvinistic Baptist churches. The ESV is what my pastor uses. While I appreciate the ESV, I have used the NASB for nearly 40 years and do not intend on changing. I am able to follow along with the pastor quite well.
     
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    That is funny and I can relate. My senior pastor did the same thing. Switched to preaching from the HCSB just few months before the CSB was released

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    Thanks. From page 11:
     
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    No problem. It is worth noting that sales and use are not the same.
     
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    Most of the Baptists with whom I associate use the New American Standard Version. (Although, some do use the ESV, these are the URR crowd.) IMHO, the NASV is the closest thing to the critical text that one can have in the English and have integrity to the Greek text. This is an assumption of course, but if your Convention had gone through a Conservative Resurgence like mine has then you would make two very clear and distinct assertions:

    First, you would want a version as nearly word for word literal as the NASV seems to be, and

    Second, and flowing from that, one would want--even demand a pastor who preaches through books of the Bible, with sound exegesis, sound Reformational theology, and an applied homiletic on which the church members can build their lives.

    My thoughts.

    Yours?

    sdg!

    rd
     
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    The esv is known as being the "reformed/calvinist version", as many churches have switched from the Niv 1984 to Esv when 2011 Niv came out!
     
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    Now they have the chance to have churches get rid of their HCSB and buy the ole "New and improved" Csb!
     
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    The above contains a few fallacies.
     
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    My Dear Rippon,

    Does it contain fallacies, I asserted "seems to me." And I am sure you will point out those fallacies to me in Christian kindness no doubt?

    My thoughts.

    Yours?

    sdg!

    rd
     
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    Who are the URR?
    I can't speak to what it would be like to be in a Convention that has gone through a Conservative Resurgence. My own experience has been with consistently conservative Baptists. (I am glad, though, that the Conservatives in the SBC have surged!) Since we were conservative all along with the KJV, I don't suppose it occurred to us to look for something "more conservative". Again, though we may have been at times more pleased and less pleased with certain pastors, we never had any that denied the inspiration of the Bible, or the faith and practice of Baptists. So I guess we come to this point today from different locations.
     
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    I made a mistake, I meant "YRR." This is the Young Restless and Reformed crowd amongst us.

    Sorry,

    sdg!

    rd
     
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    Ah, that makes sense.

    I thought you were talking about the United Rhetoricians and Roberts denomination.
    :Biggrin
     
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