Barack Obama and Liberals ARE NOT the Enemy

[Earth Wind and Fire]

You are NOT that idiotic or obtuse. If you really believe the statement that you're writing, then why on earth are you preaching to anyone, especially to other Christians?

We all know the kingdom of Heaven is spirtual, not physical; but God uses people as His mouth, hands, and feet. Why do you assume that Satan doesn't use the same methods?

It was a PERFECT response to you, but not the one you wanted because it didn't support the point you wanted to make.

I said this before to you..... Nasty Civilian Attitude! It permeates the entire country....probably always did.

 

[Don]

I said this before to you..... Nasty Civilian Attitude! It permeates the entire country....probably always did.

(SALUTE; parade rest; at ease)

 

[Don]

Anyone want take bets on how fast I get put back on Zaac's ignore list?

 

[InTheLight]

We all know the kingdom of Heaven is spirtual, not physical; but God uses people as His mouth, hands, and feet. Why do you assume that Satan doesn't use the same methods?

Exactly. Precisely. Spot on.

If Satan only relied on tempting people and influencing them via evil thoughts and never moved humans to do his bidding Christians would be living in a virtual paradise.

 

[Yeshua1]

It was an awful response. All that response supports is folks' propensity to do things their way instead of God's way.

How are they the enemy's foot soldiers if the enemy is not flesh and bone? Yall swinging at the physical when the enemy is spiritual.

satan is a supernatural being, but he uses as his mouthpieces human beings, and the agenda that president Obahma and the liberals have unleashed upon America is the 'world system and values", and satan could not say it any better himself!

Do you think that they are anti americam anti chritian pro islam pro abortion pro gay agenda and so on, wothout having satanic forces helping them push that agenda forward?

 

[Yeshua1]

Exactly. Precisely. Spot on.

If Satan only relied on tempting people and influencing them via evil thoughts and never moved humans to do his bidding Christians would be living in a virtual paradise.

This is NOT a black vrs white issue concering the peesident and christian objectionsto him, as its due to His policies and what he officially espouses that gets us to react!

And this nonsemse about us not to be getting involved in'earthly issues", and just stick with 'spiritual ones", is faukty, for are we not called by Jesus to be salt and light into culture, so we must stand for Gods standards, and oppose evil ones, the world system?

 

[Zaac]

You are NOT that idiotic or obtuse. If you really believe the statement that you're writing, then why on earth are you preaching to anyone, especially to other Christians?

I'm neither idiotic nor obtuse. I'm Biblical. If God says we battle not against flesh and bone, then I believe GOD and not you. I preach to Christians because like you Christians keep trying to fight a spiritual battle in the flesh.

We all know the kingdom of Heaven is spirtual, not physical; but God uses people as His mouth, hands, and feet. Why do you assume that Satan doesn't use the same methods?

I didn't say that he didn't. But that doesn't mean that you battle that which satan is using with your hands, mouth and feet when God has told you the battle is SPIRITUAL and not physical.

It was a PERFECT response to you, but not the one you wanted because it didn't support the point you wanted to make.

It was the perfect response of someone trying to ignore God's way by propping up their own way.

 

[Zaac]

satan is a supernatural being, but he uses as his mouthpieces human beings, and the agenda that president Obahma and the liberals have unleashed upon America is the 'world system and values", and satan could not say it any better himself!

Do you think that they are anti americam anti chritian pro islam pro abortion pro gay agenda and so on, wothout having satanic forces helping them push that agenda forward?

This brand of thinking rightly explains why there is so little love for the lost coming out of so much of the Church.

As displayed by your comments and the comments of others, it's plain to see that yall think your battle is against other people.

These people are chess pieces being used as pawns by the enemy. Instead of unBIBLICALLY viewing them as the enemy, do battle against the real enemy for their souls.

These are other sinful human beings in need of a Savior. They are NOT the enemy.

So cease with this false teaching that they are the enemy.

 

[Zaac]

Exactly. Precisely. Spot on.

If Satan only relied on tempting people and influencing them via evil thoughts and never moved humans to do his bidding Christians would be living in a virtual paradise.

Has nothing to do with who we're supposed to be at war against. Satan can use and influence people all day. That doesn't make them the enemy.

The enemy in accordance with Scripture IS NOt flesh and bone.

 

[poncho]

Obama and his liberal followers are lower in the power structure than most people think.

Contrary to popular belief "government" is not at the top of the power structure in our "world system". Satan himself is at the top followed by the "global power elite" that has co opted "the two party system".

We can go after the minions on the lowest level (Obama's liberal followers) until judgement day and nothing will ever come of it because those higher up in the power structure always remain out of view and untouched.

If you're trying to kill a snake you don't keep snipping at it's tail you cut off it's head.

Who has predominant power in the United States? The short answer, from 1776 to the present, is: Those who have the money -- or more specifically, who own income-producing land and businesses -- have the power. George Washington was one of the biggest landowners of his day; presidents in the late 19th century were close to the railroad interests; for the Bush family, it was oil and other natural resources, agribusiness, and finance. In this day and age, this means that banks, corporations, agribusinesses, and big real estate developers, working separately on most policy issues, but in combination on important general issues -- such as taxes, opposition to labor unions, and trade agreements with other countries -- set the rules within which policy battles are waged.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/class_domination.html

 

[Yeshua1]

This brand of thinking rightly explains why there is so little love for the lost coming out of so much of the Church.

As displayed by your comments and the comments of others, it's plain to see that yall think your battle is against other people.

These people are chess pieces being used as pawns by the enemy. Instead of unBIBLICALLY viewing them as the enemy, do battle against the real enemy for their souls.

These are other sinful human beings in need of a Savior. They are NOT the enemy.

So cease with this false teaching that they are the enemy.

they are enemies of the Gospel, of Chrsit, as they are the ambassadors for satan programs and teachings, regardless if thet realise that or not!

thank God neither jesus nor paul his chief Apsotle thought and spoke as you do on social issues and agendas!

 

[Zaac]

they are enemies of the Gospel, of Chrsit, as they are the ambassadors for satan programs and teachings, regardless if thet realise that or not!

Where does Scripture say they are the enemies of the Gospel? How has God said to deal with His enemies?

thank God neither jesus nor paul his chief Apsotle thought and spoke as you do on social issues and agendas!

Thank God that HE gave His word so that folks wouldn't have to be confused by your false teaching.

 

[Don]

I didn't say that he didn't. But that doesn't mean that you battle that which satan is using with your hands, mouth and feet when God has told you the battle is SPIRITUAL and not physical.

Well, then, let's all shut our mouths and hide in our prayer closets. We're obviously not supposed to be using our mouths to call sin out; we're obviously not supposed to be using our hands to help guide people in the right direction rather than towards sinful pursuits; and we're obviously not supposed to be walking among sinners, using our hands to show them what scripture says, or our mouths to preach the Truth of the Gospel. Because that's exactly what we're doing when we say the president is wrong for supporting abortion and homosexuality; that's exactly what we're doing when we tell our elected leaders that they're making decisions based on sinful lusts instead of biblical truths.

No, the ultimate conclusion of what Zaac said is, we need to be camped out in our prayer closets or under our beds, praying away the evils of the world. And while we should be praying, we should also be doing.

Sorry, Zaac; you got into another thread hoping to guilt all us other Christians; but your premise was wrong.

 

[Zaac]

Well, then, let's all shut our mouths and hide in our prayer closets. We're obviously not supposed to be using our mouths to call sin out;

Who said that?

we're obviously not supposed to be using our hands to help guide people in the right direction rather than towards sinful pursuits;

Who said that?

and we're obviously not supposed to be walking among sinners, using our hands to show them what scripture says, or our mouths to preach the Truth of the Gospel.

Who said that?

Because that's exactly what we're doing when we say the president is wrong for supporting abortion and homosexuality; that's exactly what we're doing when we tell our elected leaders that they're making decisions based on sinful lusts instead of biblical truths.

Who said doing that was wrong?

No, the ultimate conclusion of what Zaac said is, we need to be camped out in our prayer closets or under our beds, praying away the evils of the world. And while we should be praying, we should also be doing

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The ultimate conclusion is that Don must have hit his head and woke up in a dream state in which he'd decided I've said things I haven't. Been hitting his head quite a bit.

Sorry, Zaac; you got into another thread hoping to guilt all us other Christians; but your premise was wrong.

Wake up Don.

 

[Revmitchell]

Well, then, let's all shut our mouths and hide in our prayer closets. We're obviously not supposed to be using our mouths to call sin out; we're obviously not supposed to be using our hands to help guide people in the right direction rather than towards sinful pursuits; and we're obviously not supposed to be walking among sinners, using our hands to show them what scripture says, or our mouths to preach the Truth of the Gospel. Because that's exactly what we're doing when we say the president is wrong for supporting abortion and homosexuality; that's exactly what we're doing when we tell our elected leaders that they're making decisions based on sinful lusts instead of biblical truths.

No, the ultimate conclusion of what Zaac said is, we need to be camped out in our prayer closets or under our beds, praying away the evils of the world. And while we should be praying, we should also be doing.

Sorry, Zaac; you got into another thread hoping to guilt all us other Christians; but your premise was wrong.

He has not a clue what the church is doing or how.

 

[Zaac]

He has not a clue what the church is doing or how.

And you have no clue what I know so here's your two bits back.

 

[Yeshua1]

And you have no clue what I know so here's your two bits back.

Do you agree that those who are adament againstthe teaching/doctrines of jesus, as president Obahma and liberals are, they would qualify as workers of inequities?

that the Love of jesus is NOT to be 'come to jesus, and he will save you', yet refuse to take up your cross, and fail to deal with besitting sins?

if an adultery/rapist/thief said that Jesus save dthem now, wouldn't your Church be thankful and praising God, but also demand and expect them to stop doing those sinful acts and deeds?

 

[Zaac]

Do you agree that those who are adament againstthe teaching/doctrines of jesus, as president Obahma and liberals are, they would qualify as workers of inequities?

Sure if you agree that you're guilty of working just as much iniquity as they are.

that the Love of jesus is NOT to be 'come to jesus, and he will save you', yet refuse to take up your cross, and fail to deal with besitting sins?

You mean like the gossips, gluttons, and immodest dressers that the church ignores?

if an adultery/rapist/thief said that Jesus save dthem now, wouldn't your Church be thankful and praising God, but also demand and expect them to stop doing those sinful acts and deeds?

Yep. But does your church demand the same of the gluttons, gossips and immodest dressers?

 

[Don]

Sure if you agree that you're guilty of working just as much iniquity as they are.



You mean like the gossips, gluttons, and immodest dressers that the church ignores?



Yep. But does your church demand the same of the gluttons, gossips and immodest dressers?

And there you have it. Exactly what I said about him.

 

[Zaac]

And there you have it. Exactly what I said about him.

Wake up Don.