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BARNABAS. A. D. 70, on ORIGINAL SIN & THE IMPOTENCE OF MAN’S FREE WILL.

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
I'm surprised to see that you subserve the Spirit of God to Calvin.

Free will is not the same thing as "the flesh". Free will is merely a statement of how God made us. Free will is merely a necessity for relationship. Free will is a component of worship.

The flesh is sinful. Of itself, there's no hope. All flesh is destined to die. But Jesus Christ redeemed the flesh, and will make it incorruptible. He came back to life in a fleshly body. He rose into heaven in a fleshly body. Job expected to see His savior with his own eyes (fleshly body parts).

It won't stay the same, but we will one day put on an incorruptible body, similar to Jesus's after His resurrection. And none of the gospel writers expressed any observation of how His body composition was different than ours.

"Of His own will"? Yes, absolutely God, of His own will, sent Jesus to die in our place so that we will live in His place. And thus He begat us in the word of truth. Not by some special secret something that happens to those God decides He wants to rescue out of the mass of humans destined for destruction.

We are a firstfruits--the part your ellipsis left out. What are we a firstfruits of?? It seems we are a firstfruits of the redemption of "creatures". What other creatures is James referring to?
I'm surprised to see that you subserve the Spirit of God to Calvin.

Free will is not the same thing as "the flesh". Free will is merely a statement of how God made us. Free will is merely a necessity for relationship. Free will is a component of worship.

The flesh is sinful. Of itself, there's no hope. All flesh is destined to die. But Jesus Christ redeemed the flesh, and will make it incorruptible. He came back to life in a fleshly body. He rose into heaven in a fleshly body. Job expected to see His savior with his own eyes (fleshly body parts).

It won't stay the same, but we will one day put on an incorruptible body, similar to Jesus's after His resurrection. And none of the gospel writers expressed any observation of how His body composition was different than ours.

"Of His own will"? Yes, absolutely God, of His own will, sent Jesus to die in our place so that we will live in His place. And thus He begat us in the word of truth. Not by some special secret something that happens to those God decides He wants to rescue out of the mass of humans destined for destruction.

We are a firstfruits--the part your ellipsis left out. What are we a firstfruits of?? It seems we are a firstfruits of the redemption of "creatures". What other creatures is James referring to?

I am not a 'Calvinist'.

Calvin oversaw my people burned at the stake.

They preceded Calvin by one thousand six-hundred plus years.

Just as Jesus Did, Who Divinely Originated He 'Kind' of church assembly, with The Authority of God to baptise.

Calvin murdered them for that.

I am a child of those who perished in the flames.

"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 6:63

There is a reason you can not crucify your flesh enough to know that people do not put their socks over on top of their shoes.

Galatians 2:20 "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

Free will has the free will to fall short of The Glory of God.

So be it.

That which is born of flesh is flesh.

Free to be flesh.

Nothing more.
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
Who are your people?

Jesus Divinely Originated He 'Kind' of church* assembly, with The Authority of God to baptise, Commissioned her, and Promised that He would be with them, until the End of The Age.

Church Truth is predominant throughout The New Testament, but has no relevance prior to conviction of sin and bringing forth fruit meet for showing Repentance and Faith have already taken place.

no Command of God to 'reform' anything: GOD SAID of THE ANTICHRIST, “Come out of her, My people, so that you are not a partaker of her sins”

a brief reference to Calvin: John Calvin justified killing his theological opponents with the Bible

* each mention of the word church refers to 'a called-out assembly', exclusively, without exception, in The Bible.

8.0.5b TEN SCRIPTURAL PROOFS of ‘The Churches that JESUS BUILT’ AND PROMISED TO BE WITH, “ALWAYS”.

8.0.0 Bibliography: JESUS’ churches, called ‘Ana’-Baptists, or ‘Re’-Baptizers, were NEVER Catholics or Protestants.



reference to another 'gospel' Protestant heresy of infant 'baptism'. awareofthegodhead.wordpress.com
! 0.2.4 ALARM: ANOTHER GOSPEL ( invented __1600’s A.D. ) The ETERNALLY FATAL MISTAKES of ‘Protestant Reformers/ Covenant Theology’: HAVE NO OTHER “gods” BEFORE ME: “to thy seed” is Not Salvation.

1.0.2b Carnal Reformed Protestant Covenant ‘Theology’. “BAPTISM” DOES NOT COUNT FOR YOU, or YOUR BABY’S, “RELATIONSHIP to GOD”.

8.5.2c i: ‘Infant Baptism’: The third great Anti-Christian error, introduced by Satan in FALSE RELIGIOUS ‘churches’ THAT SEPARATED FROM JESUS’ CHURCHES.

8.5.2c ii Replies on ‘Infant Baptism’, re: DISCUSSION on TWITTER: The third great Anti-Christian error, introduced by Satan in FALSE RELIGIOUS ‘churches’ THAT SEPARATED FROM JESUS’ CHURCHES.
 
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Derf B

Active Member
no Command of God to 'reform' anything:
Are you not a Trinitarian?
Revelation 2:5 (KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Revelation 2:16 (KJV) Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Revelation 3:3 (KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 3:19 (KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
Are you not a Trinitarian?
Revelation 2:5 (KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Revelation 2:16 (KJV) Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Revelation 3:3 (KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 3:19 (KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Four verses Teaching, "Repent".

My blog is "AwareofThe Godhead".
 

Derf B

Active Member
Four verses Teaching, "Repent".

My blog is "AwareofThe Godhead".

Maybe you should be more aware of the Godhead. Jesus is telling the churches to repent, or go back to doing what you were doing at the first. That’s another way of saying “reform”.


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Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
Maybe you should be more aware of the Godhead. Jesus is telling the churches to repent, or go back to doing what you were doing at the first. That’s another way of saying “reform”.


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Church Truth is predominant throughout The New Testament, but has no relevance prior to conviction of sin and bringing forth fruit meet for showing Repentance and Faith have already taken place.
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
That means nothing.

Dependance on the order of wording in a statement by Barnaba in 70 A.D., for Eternal 'Salvation', is not ASSURANCE.

All SAVED Souls must have ASSURANCE of SALVATION before becoming a candidate for Scriptural baptism, to become a member of one of The Lord's Kind of churches.
 

Derf B

Active Member
Dependance on the order of wording in a statement by Barnaba in 70 A.D., for Eternal 'Salvation', is not ASSURANCE.

All SAVED Souls must have ASSURANCE of SALVATION before becoming a candidate for Scriptural baptism, to become a member of one of The Lord's Kind of churches.
You mean a new convert must have perfect faith before being baptized? I guess nobody but you will ever be baptized.
 
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