Of course.
Would you call them racists?
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Of course.
Would you call them racists?
How would I know that?
I would call them overly aggressive cops without probable cause.
It was an eyewitness, that is NOT hearsay.Police did not see the activity. Police did not see any traffic violations. Police did not say, "we got a call from someone that had your license plate." Yet they pulled him over. This is the definition of hearsay.
You need to read the story again."Someone" was not making a complaint about being threatened by a weapon. Someone complained that it looked like someone else was being threatened by something that looked like a sword.
No, and notice they were not after him because of a sword in his possession. They were after him due to a complaint of THREATENING someone with a weapon.Now, supposing for the sake of argument that DeShields actually HAD A SWORD in the trunk of his Escalade. Now what? What should the cops do now? Is it illegal to have a sword?
Aggressive? Oh brother.How would I know that?
I would call them overly aggressive cops without probable cause.
o there was this one time when I was in instructional league in Kissimmee Florida 2012. A couple of my teammates and I went out to grab some dinner. If you were with me y’all might remember this moment that night. The group that I was with (3 Blacks, 1 Mexican, 1 white) in my brand new Cadillac Escalade. It was prob around 9–930 ish and most restaurants were closed so we went to the drive through at Steak ‘n Shake. As we go through the drive through get our food we decide to just kick it in the parking lot and eat because we didn’t want to go back to the hotel just yet. So we are sitting there eating the food hanging outside in this parking lot where it’s completely empty. Anyways 20–30 mins go by we are finished still kicking back listening to music, dancing, goofing around just being teenage kids. All of a sudden a cop car pulls in and parks across from us on the other side of the parking lot. Two white cops get out of the car and walk like they are going inside of Steak ‘n Shake. All of a sudden they stop and they are just watching us. One guy gets on his walkie talkie or whatever and they start to approach us. I’ll never forget them approaching us with their hands on their weapons. One of the officers approach me and ask me “whose car is this?” I sa “it’s mine” and his response to that was “are you sure”… I say “yes sir” then he continues on to ask me for my license and registration and all of a sudden 2 cop cars pull up in the parking lot and in my head I’m thinking oh shit what did we do we going to jail. Anyways they ask all of us to stand away from the vehicle and begin to search my car for no reason at all. I didn’t ask any questions. After the search one of the officers was like “you know it’s illegal to play your music at a certain decibel from a restaurant” and I’m like whattttt?!?!? First of all there was nobody in the parking lot nor in the restaurant. Second of all what kind of law is that? Anyways he writes me a ticket for playing my music to loud in front of a establishment pretty much and told us we need to go home. So we did. And on the way home my Mexican teammate and white teammate were PISSED. They wanted to go back and tell them the ticket was bullshit and all this stuff. My black teammates and myself were like nah that’s not a good idea we are taking our black asses home because we understood what would happen.
Yep. Its called reasonable articulable suspicion and it is the current legal burden that must be met. Considering that 90% of the people in that part of town are black, race was not an issue. Weapon + reported threat = felony stop. Felony stop = roll everything you have and put people on ground.So you people have no problem with 5 police cars pulling over a vehicle, demanding the occupants exit the vehicle, based solely on someone's phone call to 911 with some vague reference to a group of black males perhaps threatening someone with possibly a sword? The police didn't see a thing, saw no traffic infractions, just pulled over a vehicle that is stereotypically associated with blacks, based on hearsay. That's OK with you?
The police handled the situation properly. The occupants of the vehicle handled the situation properly. No one got hurt. No one got killed.
Just put the shoe on the other foot. What if mostly black officers pulled over a vehicle of whites based on a 911 call? Would that be offensive to you?
What if the incident had been exactly what the concerned citizen called in and the police did not make the traffic stop?R-i-g-h-t... So you know what it's like to be a black man getting pulled over by the cops for no reason. You know what it's like to be in his shoes. That's the irony right there. Not only that but you are making assumptions for the person that called in the complaint.
Yes, let's see the police report. Let's see the name of the person that called in and read the complaint. Please.
DeShields is in effect, testifying that this happened to him. He has several witnesses. The cops presumably have his autograph.
A report of a crime in progress is probable cause to investigate.How would I know that?
I would call them overly aggressive cops without probable cause.
The police handled the situation properly. The occupants of the vehicle handled the situation properly. No one got hurt. No one got killed. ...
Precisely. That should have been the end of the story. Instead, the entire tone of the story was racist conjecture. No one even came close to being injured, much less killed, yet DeShields made it sound like a near death experience. And the second story was little better.That's the end of the story. Anything else is pure conjecture.