BASIC FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT VACCINATIONS

Vacuum cleaner salesmen use the Ben Franklin close (cost to benefit) researchers research.

Then I suggest you refrain from such activity in the future.

 

Yet another evasive maneuver. Tee hee, ho ho, nyuck nyuck.

 

I must ask for the proof you have to make these statements more than just allegations.

Where is your undeniable proof that small pox was virtually eliminated in all the world by vaccinations?

How did one state in Northern Nigeria figure out the USofA had ulterior motives for giving out free small pox vaccinations?

Where is your undeniable proof that they were mistaken?

Where is your undeniable proof that they sacrificed 800 of their children to their faulty conspiracy theory?

You must have a great deal of information from rational/party sites in order to make and back up such incontestable statements and I'm pretty sure that in the interest of defending them you would be willing to share this information with the rest of us so we can all better understand both the pros and cons of vaccinations.

I tried to make the questions as simple and direct as possible to avoid any further evasive maneuvering and posting of absurdities on your part.

To imply that a person or persons are forwarding a conspiracy theory then dodging questions and giving nothing but opinion and rhetoric whilst giving no hard evidence to support your position is a bit like assigning false motives, and in your own words that could be mistrued as "un-christian" behavior imho.

 

Thanks Ed, I'll go through the information you posted and get back with ya it's getting late tonight.

 

One hour is kind of insignifigant in light of the potential permanent damage that could be caused by one vaccination. I guess maybe I am begining to see where you are coming from now Ed.

I reckon that it's good to have your priorites in their proper place. Placing sports over serious health issues is in line with the majority I would guess. Good to be in the majority on issues, isn't it?

I've just been doing that, have you? I noticed while going through the files that are "open to the public" there are three types of polio viruses and only two vaccines. Your source (a blog w/footballs) doesn't seem to take this into account when attempting to explain away the alleged "conspiracy theory". It also doesn't take into account the revelations of the WHO's anti-tetanus campaign and if this had a bearing on the the Nigerian refusal of the polio vaccine campaign.

Maybe just maybe Ibrahim Datti Ahmed was paying attention to what the Mexican and Phillipine health authorities were finding in the tetanus vaccine and the way in which it was being administered.

I should now better by now than to ask "where is your proof or statistics to back this conpsiracy theory" of your's Ed but I'll ask anyways...where is it??

I reckon I've spent enough time in the show me state to say "show me" so, show me.

It's much easier to dismiss something as a "conspiracy theory" than to back up your own theory with hard facts and evidence isn't it?. I suspect that's probably why you continue to use the technique and skirt around questions by posting absurdities and claim that to do the research for "an hour" to answer my questions is a waste of your time.

That's typical for people that have claimed that something is a "conspiracy theory", the answers to questions always seems to be the same. Don't bother me I haven't got the time to explain...just take my word for it.

 

Okay, Phillip, you've asked me two or three times now if I've been kidnapped by aliens but I don't take that as a personal attack. Even though I could view it as such. I find it rather amusing and think it shows a lack of confidence you may have in your ability to refute my claims without name calling and making absurd posts.

The first part of this statement seems fair enough because there some facts out there to back it up even though you give none. The second part where you allege that I listen to Art Bell is not true, I've never listened to the guy. You seem to know much more about him than I do, where can I find his show on the radio dial so I can find out what I have been missing. You also allege that he "makes things up"...got evidence?

This is your idea of "intelligent discussion"? No wonder I don't seem to fit in here, not that that is my highest priority...to be like everyone else.

I agree ASLANSPAL has made many a legimate concern known. I've also noticed the regularity of personal attacks he gets on this board. I don't think his highest priority is to "fit in" with the majority either.

Why do you keep resorting to childish remarks like these? I would think if what you allege about me is true...that all I want to do is "push a 'conspiracy theory'" it would be easy for you to refute my attempts with solid undenialable facts and evidence. That is what you base all your opinions on is it not?

Could it be that to do so would be a waste of your time, when name calling and making wild allegations is much easier and less time consuming?

 

"He gets what he gives"

One person's actions makes it okay for others to indulge in the same or even more egregious actions?

 

I'm not going to condone rude behaviour in anyone and most especially myself. I have tried to apologize and make amends when I have indulged in it. I think you know that Bro Curtis.

I've challenged peoples views and have had people respond by making fun of me so what's the difference? What makes it okay for some people to do it and not others?

What constitutes "far-fetchedness" anyway, is it a view or opinion that is out of the ordinary or out of sync with what the majority sees as normal?

If so, what is normal, and why should I as a Christian seek uniformity with a world view or try to stay inbounds with such a view that the world holds as normal?

Do I have to stick up for or condemn certain people that I may or may not agree with to "fit in" with the crowd?

[ October 10, 2005, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: poncho ]

 

Is that what I am doing, complaining? I thought I was asking questions. I asked five seperate questions in my last post. Is it complaining to much to ask why you didn't answer them more directly? One at a time?

I know, more questions. Guess I'm full of em.

 

Thanks, I try not to be rude. I think it's kind of amusing that people resort to the "abducted by aliens" thingy for reasons I've already stated, but that isn't my complaint.

I was hoping that one day people would answer my questions with answers instead of subterfuge though. Alot of people are of the opinion that my opinions are bogus and that's understandable but, they never seem to provide any of the reasons in the way of evidence how they have come to their own conclusions, rather they seem to be more interested in picking mine apart.

That's my real complaint, guess I'll never know how they come to their conclusions. They imply their opinions are all based on well known facts...if that's so then why don't they come out with them?

Doesn't seem to me that there is any reason to keep them so secret.