• Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Ben Sasse, the most honest and Godward politician

Status
Not open for further replies.

church mouse guy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Trump is an unrepentant man who laughs at evangelicals behind their backs. He is a narcissist.
Sasse is a Godly man who is genuinely interested in the welfare of this nation, not just himself.
Yet, here you are, trying to besmirch a brother in Christ while you lift up an unrepentant narcissist. That effort on your part speaks more about you than anything else.

Knock it off. Trump has done everything he could for Evangelicals. Melania is a Catholic.

75 million people voted for Trump. If he runs again, he probably will not lose the primaries to Sasse.

At this time, I myself do not intend to vote for any NeverTrumper.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 777

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Knock it off. Trump has done everything he could for Evangelicals. Melania is a Catholic.

75 million people voted for Trump. If he runs again, he probably will not lose the primaries to Sasse.

At this time, I myself do not intend to vote for any NeverTrumper.

Trump has done everything for himself and since evangelicals helped vote him in, he fed them what they wanted.
Roman Catholicism is less evangelical than Lutheran.
If Trump runs again, the Democrats will sweep everything, just as they did this past election season (and no, Trump didn't win...he lost fair and square).
Moreso, as a Christian, it seems wise that a person vote for an actual Christian rather than a person who has shown zero Christian character and who mocks evangelicals behind their backs.
 

church mouse guy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Trump has done everything for himself and since evangelicals helped vote him in, he fed them what they wanted.
Roman Catholicism is less evangelical than Lutheran.
If Trump runs again, the Democrats will sweep everything, just as they did this past election season (and no, Trump didn't win...he lost fair and square).
Moreso, as a Christian, it seems wise that a person vote for an actual Christian rather than a person who has shown zero Christian character and who mocks evangelicals behind their backs.

Sasse made a false accusation against Trump so let’s see how the Senator does in the Republican primaries in 2024 unless he changes parties before then.
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Sasse made a false accusation against Trump so let’s see how the Senator does in the Republican primaries in 2024 unless he changes parties before then.
It wasn't false. Trump tried to illegally take the Presidency and go against the Constitution. Trump lost every legal effort he tried, even when submitted to judges he appointed.
If the Republican Party keeps following Trump, they will be useless as a political party and young people will be herded toward a godless political party in the Democrats. Any Godward person who loves God over country would refuse to vote for Trump as long as he is unrepentant and refuses to admit he lost the election fairly.
Unfortunately, it seems many US Christians love their politics over their Creator. That is a very sad thing to observe.
 

Aaron

Member
Site Supporter
Your comment is false. His voting record is very relevant. What is irrelevant is attacking other human beings who have a different idea regarding best path for the United States.
Read his book "THEM." It will help you grasp why Ben Sasse is the one who seeks unity rather than divisiveness in the US. He is the closest thing to Ronald Reagan that I have seen, except Sasse is more Godward than Reagan.
If he won't call out the lies and sedition of the Dems, then he's one of them. Book schmook.
 

Salty

20,000 Posts Club
Administrator
It wasn't false. Trump tried to illegally take the Presidency and go against the Constitution. ..
That is totally a bunch of hogwash. There was fraud - but not enough to change results - but Trump was trying to get to the bottom of it. One thing - for sure - he is not a quitter! Libs were trying to make us believe that it would take the Secret Service to bodily move Trump from the White House. - Oh - so what did Trump illegally do???


..., as a Christian, it seems wise that a person vote for an actual Christian rather than a person who has shown zero Christian character and who mocks evangelicals behind their backs.
Lets see - Clinton and Carter - were Southern Baptists and claimed to be born again....... You were saying....
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
That is totally a bunch of hogwash. There was fraud - but not enough to change results - but Trump was trying to get to the bottom of it. One thing - for sure - he is not a quitter! Libs were trying to make us believe that it would take the Secret Service to bodily move Trump from the White House. - Oh - so what did Trump illegally do???



Lets see - Clinton and Carter - were Southern Baptists and claimed to be born again....... You were saying....
I am saying that Christians lambasting Ben Sasse, who is truly a Christian, while unabashedly fawning over a man who secretly mocks them and claims he has no need to repent, are a bunch of hypocrites and the unsaved world easily recognizes it.
If Christians keep supporting Trump, they will further marginalize themselves and bring on their own demise in a post-Christian America.
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Please prove this assertion.
I do not have access to Donald Trump. However, Ben Sasse has had access and Sasse stated that Trump secretly mocks evangelicals.

Sasse responded by first talking about areas where he agrees with Trump, such as judicial nominations. But then he said a number of the president’s values are deficient — not just for a Republican, Sasse said, but for any American.

“The way he kisses dictators’ butts. I mean, the way he ignores that the Uighurs are in literal concentration camps in Xinjiang right now,” Sasse said. “He hasn’t lifted a finger on behalf of the Hong Kongers. I mean, he and I have a very different foreign policy.

“It isn’t just that he fails to lead our allies. It’s that the United States now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership. The way he treats women and spends like a drunken sailor. The ways I criticize President Obama for that kind of spending, I’ve criticized President Trump for as well. He mocks evangelicals behind closed doors. His family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity. He’s flirted with white supremacists.”
Trump 'kisses dictators' butts' and 'mocks evangelicals,' Sasse says in call with constituents
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Hearsay.
After all, why would someone who tries to save the lives of living aborted babies lie?
I trust what Ben Sasse says above what Donald Trump says. You could claim hearsay regarding Donald Trump, over and over again.
Why do you fully trust a man who has openly lied his whole life, yet you reject the words of a man who is very much Godward?
 

SGO

Well-Known Member
I trust what Ben Sasse says above what Donald Trump says. You could claim hearsay regarding Donald Trump, over and over again.
Why do you fully trust a man who has openly lied his whole life, yet you reject the words of a man who is very much Godward?


Hearsay is not proof.
Just like no human can really prove I am a Christian.
Would you doubt me right now if I say, that even in spite of worldly "evidence" against, that I am a born again Christian?
Thanks be to Jesus Christ who justifies the ungodly, and that Christ died for the ungodly. Romans 4:5, Romans 5:6
Have you a statement from your Champion, Mr. Sasse, that he can unequivocally state Donald Trump is not a Christian?
You trust a politician as much as you trust Christ?
 

SGO

Well-Known Member
Sasse voted to acquit President Trump.

"If Sasse is honest enough to make this harsh evaluation of Trump on all those grounds, he surely must have recognized that Trump committed impeachable acts in trying to extort our ally Ukraine in a hot war with Russia to concoct dirt on his opponent, former vice president Joe Biden. Nevertheless, Sasse voted with every other Republican, save Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah), to acquit Trump. As House impeachment manager and Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) put it, “If you find that the House has proved its case, and still vote to acquit, your name will be tied to his with a cord of steel and for all of history.” And so it will be for Sasse."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/16/sad-case-ben-sasse/
 

SGO

Well-Known Member
Donald Trump has done even more than Ben Sasse to fight abortion.
He did not stop at trying to help those who remained alive after failed abortions
but tried to reduce and ultimately stop these murders.
He can mock all he likes if he stopped murder.
Why are you so bent against that?

Donald Trump achievements: Abortion - Conservapedia
 

Scott Downey

Well-Known Member
Donald Trump has done even more than Ben Sasse to fight abortion.
He did not stop at trying to help those who remained alive after failed abortions
but tried to reduce and ultimately stop these murders.
He can mock all he likes if he stopped murder.
Why are you so bent against that?

Donald Trump achievements: Abortion - Conservapedia
Some 'evangelists' I have no respect for, they are obviously false teachers.
One says God lives on a planet
And says Jesus suffered torments by demons in Hell after His crucifixion
Also seen him flicking his tongue like a serpent in videos.
And they love to give out prophesies they claim from God that never come true, then blame failures on the person or circumstances.
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Ben Sasse is a true conservative. He would therefore vote yes for every conservative bill and no for every liberal bill. He is a true Constitutionalist, above party panderer. I respect his stand.

Donald Trump is only concerned with what is best for Donald Trump. Look at how he bullies people and fires anyone who dares question him.

It is shocking to me to see Christians flock to and support such an unrepentant sinner, while hating a Senator who truly walks with God.

We all will give account for our choices and actions and words. May God have mercy on us all.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top