Benny Hinn faith healer or fake?

It only takes one false prophecy to make a false prophet. He once said that the Holy Spirit told him that there was atrinity of trinities, ie there are nine of them. He said that the Holy Spirit told him this specifically, hence a prophesy or word of wisdom or whatever. Later, he was confronted about that and he recanted and said that he did not know what he was thinking. he claims to be very very close to God and said that the Holy Spirit said this, so is Benny confused or does the Holy Spirit change His mind or misspeak Himself?

 

I did write him once to question some things that he taught and all I got was a form letter saying, "Thank you for your interest In our ministries. If you'd like to send money..."

At least Bob Jones III took the time to write me back and tell me I was going to Hell, himself.

Mike

 

False Prophet...fake....Joke....Bad Man!!!!

Sherrie

 

Fake hair, too.

Mike

 

Form letters...ARGH!

Will attack it over the weekend. If nothing else at least I'ld have warm fuzzy feeling of giving it a go hmmm I wonder how many times I can reply to their form letters before their computer gets sick of me

I haven't had the (dis?)pleasure of seeing/hearing/reading any of Bob Jones. In the same camp as Hinn I take it?

Pete

 

Oh, no. Theologically they're like night and day.

Jones is EXTREMELY conservative (it wasn't even until very recently that they allowed white students at Bob Jones U. to date blacks) and Hinn is...well, we're still trying to figure out exactly what he is.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd hold my nose and pick Jones.

I agree with him on more doctrinal issues than he would probably like to admit (although I'm still a little confused as to how he came to the whole black vs white conclusion).

My problems with him are strictly a matter of differing political ideologies.

Mike

 

Hinn is a fake if I ever saw one! What he is , is an entertainer! A crowd manipulator. I wouldn't waste my time watching him.

Susan

 

HA! I didn't realize how that looked when I wrote it.

Sometimes I just crack myself up.

Mike

 

Jones was extremely Conservative, but they have slipped in the classroom while still promoting the Conservative in Chapel. Considering the black-white issue as a means of preventing trouble rather than causing it they had their right to hold the position though I did not concur. Regardless of the strides in overcoming racial prejudice a mixed couple and their children still have problems in this country and I do not mean the South. I heard the N word more in the time I was a POW in the North than I have heard it in the Carolinas or here in Tejas. In fact, 65% of all hate groups are HQ'd in the North and even the head of the Klan is from Chicago.
The only real difference in racial issues between the North and the South is that the North hide theirs from the minorities whereas a Southern person will just come right out with it if he/she holds to some sort of bigotry. I saw great prejudice up North against Asians as well as Blacks. Because I was Southern they would wait until the N or Gook was out of ear shot and then say some slur or whatever smiling at me thinking I would join in. After all, all us Southerners are inbred racists. Instead they got a tonguelashing.

Check out Klan Watch sometime and you will see that they report more racial instances in the North than in the South. The media usually only reports the Southern ones.

Therefore considering the problems the students may have encountered BJU may have done them a great service by not allowing the biracial dating. They allowed Blacks and others and many of their graduates serve in Africa and other nations so I do not think it was a bigot thang.

 

I've had that happen to me, too.

Every now and then, someone assumes that, just because I'm from the South, I'm a racist.

I've had guys I thought were my friends lean over to me and whisper things thinking that we shared some common bond of idiocy.

When I was in High School in New Jersey, a girl accused me of calling her the "N" word, which I haven't ever and wouldn't ever say to anyone (it was later found that it was someone else who said it and she only thought I was theone who said it).

The principle actually told me, "You're not in Alabama anymore, Mike. You can't act like that here."

What made the whole thing all the more ridiculous was that earlier in the year, I had dated one of the black girls in school.

As distasteful as I "Blacks Just Unworthy"'s policy against blacks, that's actually not what I was referring to.

[ September 07, 2002, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: Smoke_Eater ]

 

Look, if the man was really a faith healer he needs to go to the local hosptials and heal all the people that are there. He only goes where the money is. This faith healing crazy I believe is the same as murder. I know a lady that was told she could quit taking her insulin in one week she would be healed of diabetes. In 3 weeks she had a massive heart attack and is dead. I don't beleive when they say they must of not had enough faith. If this was so, then why would they believe this anyway.

 

Rock on, Julie!

Smoke, if BJU meant what you gave the abbreviation they would not have allowed Blacks on campus at all. I think neither of us know all the skinny on that issue and now that it is gone it is a moot point.

 

Actually, Hinn claims (in the first and second printings of "Good Morning Hol Spirit", I believe) to have gone to a catholic hospital in Sault St Marie to hold a healing service in which he healed not only every patient in the hospital, but even people who happened to be outside walking past the hospital.

One small problem, when investigative reporters from the Trinity Foundation (a Christian organization that keeps tabs on WoF teachers and other cults) went to the hospital to investigate, no one there had ever heard of him.

It's already been made public that a woman who was "healed" at one of his shows died shortly after.

Mike

 

Benny a Baptist? And I am a kangaroo--a skinny
one, age 27, and pretty.

Benny is as fake as plastic patent leather.
Perhaps a magician, perhaps a hypnotist,
perhaps in the occult, but FAKE.

 

Wow, Abiyah, don't hold back tell us how you really feel.

 

To quote an old '80s commercial, "Where's the Beef?" Let's change the phrase just a bit -"Where's the proof?" If he's a REAL faith healer, why doesn't he visit children's hospitals?

Benny Hinn has claimed, and refuted, and claimed, and refuted, and claimed that there are nine members in the Godhood. He has said a lot of other unorthodox/heretical things as well. I not only question his faith healing ability, I question his salvation. I realize some will take me to task for this, but the lines must be drawn.

Rev. G

 

First, I don't believe Benny Hinn is a healer in any form or fashion. But for those who believe that ONLY the original twelve apostles were given the power to heal in Christ's name, how do we explain Paul? and how do we explain the passage in Mark and Luke which reads: LK 9:49 "Master," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us." (Isn't driving out demons both a spiritual healing and a physical one?)

The Holy Spirit gives gifts. While some may be more commonly given (poor choice of words - let's say "given to more believers") and other gifts more rarely given, and while you may never have seen one who has been given the gift of healing, let's arbitrarily say that God does not give out certain gifts at all any more. I have seen healing - it wasn't showy or fancy (or anything like what you might think of in a thread about Benny Hinn!). It was quiet and personal and God did the healing.

One final note, what does James say about healing in his epistle? "(JAS 5:13-16) Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. 14 Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective." This changes what you've been talking about from a high visability form of healing to Christians acting together in the name of Jesus for the glory of God.

 

I'm incredibly skeptical of people who claim to be "faith" healers. Maybe it's because I still have visions of Peter Popoff with the hidden receiver in his ear. Even though he was exposed as a fraud, he still has a following.

 

(Italics added for emphasis, DS)

John,
It's not only appropriate to be skeptical of them, but scripture requires it. I've also noticed that those who claim they are "faith healers" generally prove the need for skeptcism. Those who truly have the gift of healing often deny that they have that gift - they lack faith in both themselves and in God's power, or they have a fear of being overwhelmed. If you, a righteous Christian man, were given this gift, would you try to keep it quiet and heal those you could in Jesus' name without drawing any attention to yourself? or would you make a show of it like Benny Hinn? From what I've gathered of you from your posts on this board, I expect that you would become very adept at healing inconspicuously and would glorify the name of Jesus without adding your own name to the credits.

[ December 18, 2002, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: Dan Stiles ]