Bible errors

[Internet Theologian]

evangelist6589, you have a very difficult time accepting any person who does not agree with you, lost or saved. If they don't agree with you and dance to your tune you off them, hex them, demean them, write them off and thump them in the head with the Bible.

 

[Internet Theologian]

Do you even read posts before you reply? Its not like the book Way of the Master does not use scripture. In fact it uses it on almost every page. The fact that you won't even bother to give it a chance speaks volumes on your mindset. Your mind is already made up. Good day sir!!

Who said I won't give it a chance? I've listened to Comfort on several occasions. It's the way YOU present him and his materials and the false conclusions and applications that are the problem, not him.

 

[SovereignGrace]

It seems like every time I go out witnessing I run into someone that does not believe the Bible and refuses to study it in depth or read any books or tracts defending it. It's like they want to believe what they wish and refuse to admit they are wrong or could be wrong. They believe the Bible to be full of errors but refuse to study any of these errors in depth. It grieves that people could be so relativistic and so I usually come on them hard with the law and the reality of Gods judgment on them. I just can't reach people like this.

Always remember that it is not our job to convince anyone of the biblical truths contained in the bible. That is the Spirit's job. It is our job to proclaim God's word to ppl. As we preach and/or witness, He quickens whosoever He wills.

 

[Internet Theologian]

FTR I am not trying to offend you evangelist6589, nor do I count you an enemy or anything like that sir, it's just that you need to hear what you're being told. You're off track, then you come here looking for applause and support, and when you get the opposite, deservedly, you go off. This is why I say you need to, frankly, grow up. Be like Nike and 'Just do it'.

 

[Don]

Law to the proud and grace for the humble.

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/watchepisodes.shtml

Looked around; do they have written transcripts anywhere? As I've mentioned at other times, I live in a rural area with only satellite internet. My data limits don't allow for videos.

I also read faster than I watch/listen; and a transcript would allow for easier review of the material.

Additionally, I'm half deaf. Most of the time, I have to closely watch a person's lips to match what they're saying, to ensure I actually heard what I thought I heard. There have been many times I've misunderstood a word, which changes an entire conversation. On a TV, I ensure closed captioning is on. Annoys my family, but it's better than blasting the volume which keeps everyone from being able to talk to each other.

For these reasons, it would be great if they have transcripts of their videos available for the hearing-impaired and/or disabled (which, by the way, is actually a recommendation/requirement of the W3C to comply with the IRS 501C3 requirements, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), and other world-wide initiatives to ensure the internet is "friendly" to everyone).

 

[JonC]

It seems like every time I go out witnessing I run into someone that does not believe the Bible and refuses to study it in depth or read any books or tracts defending it. It's like they want to believe what they wish and refuse to admit they are wrong or could be wrong. They believe the Bible to be full of errors but refuse to study any of these errors in depth. It grieves that people could be so relativistic and so I usually come on them hard with the law and the reality of Gods judgment on them. I just can't reach people like this.

Reread my first sentence. It's people I witness too. If they are humble then I give them grace. If proud then they get law. Law for the proud and grace for the humble.

James tells us that God gives grace to the humble (he tells also to draw near to God and he will draw near to us). James (Jm. 4:6) cites Proverbs 3:34 and tells us “Therefore it [Scripture] says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble”. Peter (1 Pt. 5:5) tells us that “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble”. Other passages of interest include Isa. 61:1, 66:2; Mat. 5:3. I believe the best illustration of God giving grace to the humble is in Jesus’ own explanation in the Sermon on the Mount.

Please correct me if I have misunderstood your comments, but it seems to me that you are saying you evangelize the lost via preaching the Ten Commandments if they are proud (if they resist what is being said) until such a time as they are humbled by being convicted under the Law; but if they are humble then you preach the gospel of Christ. If that is what you mean, then I think that you may need to revisit what you are providing as biblical support for that method as I think it may be out of context with the Bible. Resisting the proud and giving grace to the humble is not descriptive of what men do (or of what a preacher/evangelist does), but of the work of God.

If this helps, I understand how hard it must be to go on the streets and preach the gospel to men and women who have no ear for the things of the Spirit. You are being faithful to God’s call in your life, but you are running up against worldly people. You can’t reach people like that….only God can. You (we all) should greave over people like this but we can’t exchange the declaration of grace for a pronouncement of judgment over these people (1 Cor. 5:12). If you notice, Jesus never preached condemnation to the lost except that they claim to represent the people of God. I know it's hard at times, but I want to encourage you just to be faithful to God and let everything else fall where they may.

 

[Van]

Some people might think that if their ministry is ineffective, its God's fault, He did not open the hearts of those witnessed to. Paul tells us they will still get to heaven, as one escaping from a fire. OTOH, God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

 

[evangelist6589]

Looked around; do they have written transcripts anywhere? As I've mentioned at other times, I live in a rural area with only satellite internet. My data limits don't allow for videos.

I also read faster than I watch/listen; and a transcript would allow for easier review of the material.

Additionally, I'm half deaf. Most of the time, I have to closely watch a person's lips to match what they're saying, to ensure I actually heard what I thought I heard. There have been many times I've misunderstood a word, which changes an entire conversation. On a TV, I ensure closed captioning is on. Annoys my family, but it's better than blasting the volume which keeps everyone from being able to talk to each other.

For these reasons, it would be great if they have transcripts of their videos available for the hearing-impaired and/or disabled (which, by the way, is actually a recommendation/requirement of the W3C to comply with the IRS 501C3 requirements, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), and other world-wide initiatives to ensure the internet is "friendly" to everyone).

Then buy and read one of these books.

The way of the master
Hells best kept secret

Since no one on this board will do this all comments against Biblical evangelism will be ignored by me.

 

[evangelist6589]

evangelist6589, you have a very difficult time accepting any person who does not agree with you, lost or saved. If they don't agree with you and dance to your tune you off them, hex them, demean them, write them off and thump them in the head with the Bible.

This is not true. I personally work with a person on the streets who disagrees with WOTM. He does not say anything about me being the problem in interpretation of WOTM as you falsely claim he just does not agree with Comfort and says I sometimes act like him. I do not always follow WOTM as I do not follow a man but the Bible so my technique in evangelism is not always the same with people. Yes sometimes I do not use the 10 commandments.

I am also on a group that disagrees with my view of Hell. I do not dislike these brothers it's just on the doctrine of Hell we do not agree so I avoid controversy among them.

Hell may be metaphorical or literal. But I disagree their annihilationist view.

But your slander of me is not wanted.

 

[HankD]

Actually there is very little similarity to the Rheims, which reads: Diversely, and many vvaies in times past God speaking to the fathers in the prophets.

The KJV reading comes directly from the Bishops' Bible, which it is a revision of.

The Bishops' Bible reads: God which in time past, at sundrie tymes, and in diuers maners, spake vnto the fathers in the prophetes.

Hmm, but my Catholic Bible which calls itself the Challoner Rheims Edition says it just as I printed it word for word.

HankD

 

[Internet Theologian]

This is not true. I personally work with a person on the streets who disagrees with WOTM. He does not say anything about me being the problem in interpretation of WOTM as you falsely claim he just does not agree with Comfort and says I sometimes act like him. I do not always follow WOTM as I do not follow a man but the Bible so my technique in evangelism is not always the same with people. Yes sometimes I do not use the 10 commandments.

I am also on a group that disagrees with my view of Hell. I do not dislike these brothers it's just on the doctrine of Hell we do not agree so I avoid controversy among them.

Hell may be metaphorical or literal. But I disagree their annihilationist view.

But your slander of me is not wanted.

There are always exceptions to the rule, and in addition you weren't slandered.

That said show me in Scripture where yours and Comfort's methods are used on the non-religious lost.

 

[evangelist6589]

There are always exceptions to the rule, and in addition you weren't slandered.

That said show me in Scripture where yours and Comfort's methods are used on the non-religious lost.

I am real busy these days. I suggest you purchase the book and he will do a far better job at explaining the method and also cite quotes from authors of the past putting to rest the false charge that this is Comforts method. I have labored to read the entire books of Hells best Kept Secret and Way of the Master. Until people around here can do the same I will not listen to one peep of criticism from them. It will go in one ear and out the other.

 

[TCassidy]

Hmm, but my Catholic Bible which calls itself the Challoner Rheims Edition says it just as I printed it word for word.

Ah hah! You don't have a Douay-Rheims bible. You have a Challoner bible.

Richard Challoner published three editions, 1749, 1750, and 1752. The Catholic Church retained the title Douay–Rheims Bible, but the Challoner revision was a new version, which took as its base text the King James Bible.

So, it is not the KJV which uses a Rheims reading, it is the Challoner/Rheims version that uses a KJV reading.

 

[Internet Theologian]

I am real busy these days. I suggest you purchase the book and he will do a far better job at explaining the method and also cite quotes from authors of the past putting to rest the false charge that this is Comforts method. I have labored to read the entire books of Hells best Kept Secret and Way of the Master. Until people around here can do the same I will not listen to one peep of criticism from them. It will go in one ear and out the other.

I'll pass. I know enough Scripture to at least see that your methods and manners are amiss from Biblical protocol. And see, you admit to the criticism and whine about people not applauding you here because they disagree with you you write them off as I stated.

 

[Sapper Woody]

I am real busy these days. I suggest you purchase the book and he will do a far better job at explaining the method and also cite quotes from authors of the past putting to rest the false charge that this is Comforts method. I have labored to read the entire books of Hells best Kept Secret and Way of the Master. Until people around here can do the same I will not listen to one peep of criticism from them. It will go in one ear and out the other.

I have read the entire "Greater Keys of Solomon" and "Lesser Keys of Solomon", and I'm betting you haven't. Should I not listen to you if you say witchcraft is wrong simply because you haven't read the same books I have?

Disclaimer: I do not follow witchcraft at all. But in my curiosity as a youth I investigated Wicca heavily; not to become one, but because I wanted to know what they actually believed.

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[Squire Robertsson]

Also, many here suffer from method book fatigue. On the whole, we've gone through such varied works as John R. Rice: The Golden Path to Successful Personal Soul Winning, Jack Hyles: Let's Go Soul Winning, and D. James Kennedy: Evangelism Explosion. Now, you expect us to get enthused about a new shiny?

 

[evangelist6589]

I'll pass. I know enough Scripture to at least see that your methods and manners are amiss from Biblical protocol. And see, you admit to the criticism and whine about people not applauding you here because they disagree with you you write them off as I stated.

Your colors show true.

 

[Don]

Then buy and read one of these books.

The way of the master
Hells best kept secret

Since no one on this board will do this all comments against Biblical evangelism will be ignored by me.

All I asked for were transcripts of the videos; which, since the videos are freely available, shouldn't the transcripts also be?

 

[Don]

Your colors show true.

John - I'm going to write something you're not going to like. You need to read it anyway.

Your attitude inhales. Worse than usual.

Give it some prayer and thought.

 

[Logos1560]

Hmm, but my Catholic Bible which calls itself the Challoner Rheims Edition says it just as I printed it word for word.

HankD

The makers of the KJV borrowed some renderings from the 1582 Rheims New Testament.

The later 1700's Challoner Rheims edition borrowed some from the KJV, making it read more like the KJV is some places.