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J. Jump said:That's because the church doesn't see there is a heart problem.
You got me there James. :tongue3:James_Newman said:Daniel 3:21
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
Hope that is not true of the church you attend.
Well praise God. I would say you are the exception rather than the rule these days.It certainly is not true of the church I pastor.
James_Newman said:Who cares what the lost world thinks? Letting your daughters dress like the lost world is a heart problem. You ought to care more about your children than the lost world cares about theirs.
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.James_Newman said:Who cares what the lost world thinks?
J. Jump said:Brother that is true of the majority of churches across America. And the longer we go the more Laodicean the church is going to get and the more of the world the church is going to let in.
Well praise God. I would say you are the exception rather than the rule these days.
Exactly 100% correct, thank you. I stumble for words at times.Bro Tony said:So what is the answer? I say let the Scripture speak for itself rather than religious people establishing their own standards that have no basis in the Scripture.
Bro Tony
Bro Tony said:Now James stay with me. My comment about the world was that when we makes illogical associations, cause and effect statements, that have no basis in fact, we look and are idiotic.
I care about my children tremendously, I care that they know the Truth from the Bible. I care that they have a living vital relationship with Jesus Christ. I care that they know how to walk in this fallen world as people who are empowered by the Holy Spirit and walk in the Lord. I care that they not get caught up in legalism that kills rather than walk in the Spirit of God as He imparts the Word of God into their lives. And you lack of understanding about what I said about the response of the world has caused you to make a slanderous statement about me and my children. Befor you make any more statement about my relationship with my children, please take a reading comprehension course.
Bro Tony
Of course that is the answer, but there are far too many churches that turn a blind eye to Scripture or have re-written It so that they make It say what they want It to.I say let the Scripture speak for itself
Yes I do. Even in the cultures where men wore kilts the women wore long flowing dresses.Bro Tony said:You have a problem with men wearing kilts?
If you ever see a woman in the Bible told to gird up their loins like a man, I might become closer to your definition of sane.What I find crazy is that you automatically assume that pants = masculine clothes.
Do you have a problem with men who wear men's dresses?I would have trouble with a man who always wore women's slacks as much as I would one wearing women's dresses.
I agree with most of what you say. There is a distinct difference between what you are saying and the group of Newman, Herb, and Rufus.J. Jump said:Of course that is the answer, but there are far too many churches that turn a blind eye to Scripture or have re-written It so that they make It say what they want It to.
It's not just you and I've had a hard day on both accounts.SBCPreacher said:Is it just me or does this "modesty" issue and KJVO go hand in hand?
James_Newman said:However you may feel about your children, if you have found a better way than what the bible teaches to raise them, is that really love?You really do have a problem with comprehension. I have raise my children (who are both grown) with the Scripture as my guide. I have not raised them with you narrow minded mis-interpretation of the Scripture. I could say to you if you love you children you would not raise them in legalism, which the Apostle Paul says is the same as witchcraft.
If the bible says women should dress like women and men should dress like men, shouldn't you teach that to your children? Yes we should, the problem is that your understanding of this is what is not biblical. There are slacks that are for women, not men. I know you cannot comprehend that but it is true.
Churches have abandoned the old ways and have let the world dictate how our children should dress, what kind of music they should listen to, what they should behold with their eyes... is it any wonder that our children grow up to be just like the world? Do you instruct your children to dress like they did in the days the Scripture was written? Or have you left the "old ways". Style is clearly cultural, while modesty is always the standard. Your own words reveal your inconsistancy. Does you wife wear a burka with her head and face covered?
If the world is full of sodomites, so is the church.I got to tell you I plan on staying away from your church that is "full of sodomites". I cannot believe the insane association you make with women wearing slacks and homosexuality.
When you figure out why that is, let us know. Until then, I'm going to do my best to raise my family the way God would have me do so.I have figured out to share biblical truth in my home and church. I have also figured out the legalism does not know nor ever has worked. I hope you children do grow to be strong Christians and not enslaved to the witchcraft which is legalism[/quote]
Bro Tony:jesus:
Never thought about it, but do believe you are right. Maybe it is something in the air.SBCPreacher said:Is it just me or does this "modesty" issue and KJVO go hand in hand?
Rufus_1611 said:Yes I do. Even in the cultures where men wore kilts the women wore long flowing dresses. Then you are showing how ridiculous you can be.
If you ever see a woman in the Bible told to gird up their loins like a man, I might become closer to your definition of sane.And I would agree with you if you could prove that women's slacks are intended to make the women look masculine or provocative. It seems you guys can't make up your minds which one it is.
Do you have a problem with men who wear men's dresses? This is such a stupid question, it really doesn't deserve an answer. But, I will give you one so you can understand, Yes I think it is wrong for a man to wear a dress. This has nothing to do with a woman wearing slacks that are for women.[/quote]
Bro Tony..
J. Jump said:Of course that is the answer, but there are far too many churches that turn a blind eye to Scripture or have re-written It so that they make It say what they want It to.
SBCPreacher said:Is it just me or does this "modesty" issue and KJVO go hand in hand?