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Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by FriendofSpurgeon, Jan 6, 2009.

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  1. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

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    This post is for Jim. You have caused me to do something bad. I ordered a Cambridge! Any bible that can last 45 years is one I have to have. :laugh:

    :love2:
     
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  2. Rippon

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    No Ed,DE is not the most accurate description for the NIV.The NIV uses "optimal equivalence" though the term wasn't even around then.It's translational method could also be called "essentially literal" though that term was not coined yet.In the 4-page Preface to my NIV the term "dynamic equivalence" is not used at all.

    Elsewhere I have demonstrated the close affinity that the HCSB has with the TNIV.The translational methods are nearly identical;the differences are a matter of degree,not kind.

    Let's look at the English Bible scene in 1978.That was the year in which the Old and New Testaments of the NIV were published.

    On the more formally-equivalent side there was the NASB (1971)

    RSV Common Bible (1973)

    Mediating Version Between Formal and Dynamic --

    MLB (1969)

    Dynamic Versions

    JB (1966)

    Phillips Version (1972)

    NEB (1970)

    TEV (1976)

    LB (1971)

    These were the major versions at the time.The NIV was clearly more formally-equivalent than five of them.Two were clearly more formally-equivalent than the NIV.And one was a bit more formally-equivalent than the NIV.

    If one wanted to assign numbers to these various versions to categorize them -- the smaller the number means it's more formally-equivalent.The larger the number means that it is more dynamic.Here is my arbitrary system.

    LB --100
    TEV --90
    NEB --80
    PV --70
    JB -- 60
    NIV --30
    MLB - 25
    RSV -- 20
    NASB --10

    The NIV lands somewhere in the middle --tending toward the more formally-equivalent model.Five to the left of it and three to the right.
     
    #62 Rippon, Jan 10, 2009
  3. Jim1999

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    Sorry. It is not for sale. Besides, with all the notes and corrections notated, I would have to charge for a full set of commentaries. Why it even has sermons in it...........:saint:
    It as printed in Great Britain on india paper with a full leather cover. It was a gift on my entering the Bible College.


    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #63 Jim1999, Jan 10, 2009
  4. Amy.G

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    Oh, I know. I purchased my own! Except there are no notes.....yet.

    It is also leather with India paper. I wasn't kidding. I really did order one from Cambridge Bibles.com!
     
    #64 Amy.G, Jan 10, 2009
  5. Jim1999

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    Now remember to break it in correctly...small sections back and front, working to the middle and never leave it sitting open at a given page. The tendency is to put weight on it before it is fully broken in. I might come back in 64 years to have an eye on it.............:wavey:

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #65 Jim1999, Jan 10, 2009
  6. Amy.G

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    Thanks for the tips Jim. Seriously, every time I use it, I will think of you. :)

    In 64 years, you and I will be in the same place. See you there!
     
    #66 Amy.G, Jan 10, 2009
  7. Marcia

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    Does LB stand for Living Bible? I thought that was a paraphrase?
     
    #67 Marcia, Jan 10, 2009
  8. Rippon

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    Yeah,it's a paraphrase or a very free dynamic!
     
    #68 Rippon, Jan 10, 2009
  9. Marcia

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    I thought so.

    I bought one of these as a brand new believer because it had pictures in it. I really liked it because of the pictures (!)but somehow found out a few months later it was a paraphrase. So I got rid of it and got another Bible.
     
    #69 Marcia, Jan 10, 2009
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    #70 Jim1999, Jan 10, 2009
  11. Amy.G

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    It still works though! I love all your notes. I was trying to read all of them, but I wasn't able to make all of them out. (print was small in the photo) What a treasure that book is!
     
    #71 Amy.G, Jan 10, 2009
  12. Jim1999

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    Amy: I'll try to scan some more for you. It almost takes me forevr to figure out the scan thing.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #72 Jim1999, Jan 10, 2009
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    Amy - I was thinking the same thing - that was a picture of a treasure. :)
     
    #73 annsni, Jan 10, 2009
  14. Amy.G

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    You're doing better than me Jim. I haven't figured out that scan thing yet! :laugh:

    I look forward to seeing more pics. :thumbsup:
     
    #74 Amy.G, Jan 10, 2009
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    No,it was not the Living Bible.The one with the drawings was the Good News Bible (GNB). A Swiss woman,Annie Vallotton, made 500 line drawings for it. She's now very old and still loves to teach the Bible to children.She's regarded as the world's best-selling artist.

    Later this Bible was called Today's English Version.In 2001,since many called it a paraphrase when it was indeed translated -- it was renamed The Good News Translation (GNT).
     
    #75 Rippon, Jan 11, 2009
  16. Spinach

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    This thread is a bit debatee for the fellowship forum, imo.

    As far as the OP goes, I use the KJV and have my whole life. I have a Cambridge and a Thompson Chain. Dh has a wide-margin Cambridge (2, actually).
     
    #76 Spinach, Jan 11, 2009
  17. Jim1999

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    The difference here, for the most part, we are just talking and not fighting.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #77 Jim1999, Jan 11, 2009
  18. mcdirector

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    Talking is nice.
     
    #78 mcdirector, Jan 11, 2009
  19. Marcia

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    No, it was a Living Bible. There was an edition of it that had colored pictures (this was in '91). I know the Good News Bible and it was not that one. It was a Living Bible - my memory on that is vividly, crystal clear!!
     
    #79 Marcia, Jan 11, 2009
  20. Marcia

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    You really think so, Spinach? I think it's all friendly talk and joshing.
     
    #80 Marcia, Jan 11, 2009
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