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Featured Bibles with Old Scofield 1917 Notes

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by kathleenmariekg, Nov 22, 2020.

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    Scofield was the recommended "Study Bible" in my church that hosted the large fundamental Baptist seminary in Minneapolis. Sold them at cost in the church office!

    Used a 1901 ASV (forerunner of NASB) for its accurate translation from the Greek and NO notes - all my doctrine classes allowed Bibles on tests as long as they did not have study notes or your own notes. Learned to love Greek but hated that translation. [Ironic aside: half my church today uses that NASB I dislike; the other half the ESV which I recommend]
     
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    AV 1611 = His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sinne, and his trespasse . . .
    Cambridge 1762 = His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sin, and his trespass . . .
    Oxford 1769 = His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sins, and his trespass . . .

    Hebrew text is plural "sins"

    Just showing that not only are there not just hundreds of differences from the AV1611 and subsequent revisions, even the two most commonly-used revisions have differences.
     
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    Thought that you would like the nasb for its literalness and accuracy!
     
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    which highlights why one can be a KJVP, but not KJVO!
     
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    Only thing I know of is the Old Schofield. It's still published.
     
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    Liked the 1901 but that was stilted and wooden using English and NASB didn't help.

    I love the lilt and flow of older English (loved performed Shakespeare, too).

    I translate all the texts I preach myself as part of sermon prep. Use a blend of modern phrasing with the best grammar/vocab. Mine is the Griffin Expanded Translation, or the "GET Real Bible" ;)
     
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    Just a side note. The RSV is the original autherized revision for their ASV by the NCC. Not saying that is good.
     
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    Just remember -- Thru the Bible Outlines and Notes were just supplements to the original J. Vernon McGee 5-year program broadcasts. The real meat were the broadcasts themselves.

    You can order print copies of Thru the Bible 5-year broadcasts (6 vols.) from Christianbook.com, Amazon, and other sources. Through Black Friday (Nov. 30), Christianbook is offering the 6-vol set at a discount.

    You can also access the Thru the Bible radio network and listen to the broadcasts there. They offer other resources.

    In my humble opinion, Dr. McGee had one of the best radio ministries.

    Thru the Bible Radio Network.
     
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    I seem to remember one of the forum members -- Logos1560 -- has done a lot of technical research on the KJV, as well as other Bible versions. If you have the time, you might enjoy a few conversations with him.
     
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    J. Vernon McGee has several positive comments about Shakespeare on his 5-year Thru the Bible radio broadcasts.
     
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    I listen to McGee online every day when I have online access and also have a Solar Bible Bus as back up. We are currently studying Zechariah and I find it fascinating and healing and so many things. I was gradually starting to collect the 6 volume set commentary, as I found the volumes used at a price that I could afford, but I had to leave them behind.

    I flew across the country with just what I could fit in a carry on and a shoulder bag, and that was mostly computer stuff. I mailed ahead two small boxes with my cybersecurity textbooks in them and not much else. I packed my McGee Bible and my Solar Bus, and actually used my bible as a pillow on the plane.

    Even on sale, I cannot buy those right now. I am trusting God, that he will supply exactly what I need and no more so that I don't get distracted.
     
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    If I purchase a Bible, if possible, I want the text and notes to be in public domain. After just paying $13.00 for 3 sets of tabs, I am committed to making my McGee Bible and 1965 Halley's work. The tabs should arrive tomorrow.

    Thanks for that link. I think someone else suggested the same Bible. I saw that one a couple years ago at Barnes and Noble and almost bought it. I think it was the size of the text that held me back.
     
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    I have decided to go for simplicity until January 1st. I am going to stick in the tabs and use my McGee Bible until then. Maybe in January I will look at Bibles again, but I am going to keep things as simple as possible until January 1st.

    For Christmas, I bought myself some supplies to notebook and budget and get organized. I will decide about a Bible after I take stock of my after-holiday finances and create a budget for the new year.

    There is a good chance that I will get an Old Oxford Schofield Large Print at some point early next year, but I can wait.
     
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    Thanks everyone!!!!!
     
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    So main complaint against Nas is it "wooden literalism"
    Should like ther 2020, reads akin to the Csb n owe!
     
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    was a good Kjv called the Master Study Bible!
     
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    Your information about the 1762 Cambridge is incorrect.

    As far as I have found, the 1760 Cambridge edition was the first to introduce the plural "sins" at 2 Chronicles 33:19 and the plural "sins" is also found in the 1762 Cambridge edition. Thus, the plural "sins" was introduced in Cambridge editions before it was followed by the 1769 Oxford.

    It was the 1873 Cambridge edition by Scrivener that returned to the singular "sin" at 2 Chronicles 33:19, and later post-1900 Cambridge editions also adopted "sin" in their texts.
     
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    So if one buys a KJV revision with the Cambridge text today (as contrasted with Oxford of Scofield use), what does one have? Singular sin instead of plural, as was my point. People mistakenly think if they have a KJV it is "the same" but your post should help them see that even in modern revisions of the KJV there are differences. Thanks for another layer of teaching to bolster this! :)

    We have had a couple of rabid schismatics who pushed the KJV only extreme that is in the single inspired test. I always start with "which KJV is perfect" and list a few of the major (not spelling or grammar) differences in various revisions so they can tell me which is the one they hold. I have a copy of a 1611 AV and most of that ilk have never even read a verse!

    Blessings
     
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