Elaborate please. I think I may know where you are going, but I really am not sure.
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Biden Calls For Vax Mandate
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If you look at the Israeli data it would appear we are being lied to.
While the available vaccines may not be as good against delta as against earlier variants, they still offers substantial protection against delta. So the argument that the vaccines are "out-of-date" does not work.
Because it takes time to create a vaccine that is fine-tuned to Delta.
Again, the older vaccines work well based on what we know now - there is no debate about this.
But no source either.
Simple... much of this forcing vaccinations is bringing to move the surplus vaccines. The mayor of NYC is now giving out $100.00 per shot to reach the goal... supply and demand.
You have proof of this?
It works great. If they were "up to date" there would not be a breakthrough. If they work great, with half the country vaxed, why the numbers of infections rivaling the number when 0% were vaxed?
It works great. If they were "up to date" there would not be a breakthrough. If they work great, with half the country vaxed, why the numbers of infections rivaling the number when 0% were vaxed?
I did pray about getting the vaccine. While I do believe the work of the Spirit is to guide us and comfort us, I do not mind you believing God directed me to be vaccinated.Take whatever position you choose, pro or anti, you can find SOME expert to validate your belief. So where is the truth?? Most likely somewhere between the two extremes.
So how can you, or I, as a layman in these matters draw a reasonable conclusion when it is so evident, at least IMHO, that politics is the loudest voice on this bug????
In spite of JonC's rejection of depending on guidance from the HS for each individual, I still propose that this is the only course a Christian can take, as an individual, as to whether or not to take the shot.
W/O HS guidance, again IMHO, all you can do is, as best you can, decide which side is the nearest to honesty - good luck with that!!
But what does that say as a whole? God tells some to get vaccinated and others that the vaccine is wrong. Is this not God being inconsistent?
Not arguing - just asking for an explanation. If Hod says the vacvine is good and the vacvine is bad....
Are you saying God leads those the vacvine will help to get vaccinated and those the vacvine will harm to refrain? If so....I may actually agree with you (I would perhaps not be comfortable skipping the shot because God comforted me in the decision to be vaccinated- perhaps it is the reverse for others).
BUT then wouldn't this make the pro-vaxers and anti-vaxers (who advocate one choice for the whole) anti-christs?
I doubt it - please present your data. I would be stunned if you are correct.
The primary goal is to prevent severe illness and death, not prevent infection.
The vaccines are still achieving this in Israel.
The current vaccines are effective in preventing serious illness and death - how can you not know this? For example:
Unvaccinated people in Los Angeles County were five times as likely to become infected with the coronavirus and 29 times as likely to be hospitalized as people who were fully immunized, newly released data from California show. It is the latest evidence that vaccines continue to reduce significantly the risk of severe illness — their fundamental purpose — despite the spread of the more contagious delta variant.
Source = Washington Post
Praying about the vaccine? Well, ok, but do you really need to pray? Let me explain:
Do you pray about whether to use a seatbelt?
Do you pray about whether you should lose weight if you are obese?
Do you pray about whether you look before you cross the street?
Let me be blunt: I am convinced that people who say they need to pray about what is obviously the wise and responsible thing to do are just looking for a way to justify an irrational belief to themselves.
Do you pray about whether to use a seatbelt?
Do you pray about whether you should lose weight if you are obese?
Do you pray about whether you look before you cross the street?
Let me be blunt: I am convinced that people who say they need to pray about what is obviously the wise and responsible thing to do are just looking for a way to justify an irrational belief to themselves.
That is not what we were told. We were told the vaccines would prevent systematic infection and transmission. Now they bringing the goal posts way back.
Data. Country is almost fully vaccinated and hospitals are full.
Scott Downey
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Exactly why CDC, FDA, Fauci are not trustworthy. Follow the money and the depopulation GND agenda of what they consider too many people on earth.
I also read hydroxychloroquine worked against the original covid virus, but does not work well against Delta variant. But Ivermectin works against both variants well, which is what India is using plus an antibiotic.
(1) depopulation agenda - Bing
RipponRedeaux
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Are you from the deep South by any chance?