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Bill Clinton calls for Baptist unity

donnA

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Baptist in Richmond said:
:confused:
HUH?
To what can we attribute this accusation?

Puzzled,
BiR
we contribute it to how many times he's committed adultery, after all there plenty in the news then.
 

Tom Butler

New Member
May I ask a question here?

In order to achieve the unity Mr. Clinton calls for, what exactly will we have to set aside as not important? Not worth dividing over?

And what will the NBC folks be willing to give up to achieve that same unity?

Hmm, let's see. How about conservatives drop inerrancy?

Um, maybe we can drop our insistence on receiving members who have been baptized by immersion.

Surely our pro-life position can be set aside for unity's sake.

Can anybody add to this list?

Oh, and we can drop our insistence that the NBC-CBF folks jettison any of their views. That ought to do it.
 

carpro

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Tom Butler said:
May I ask a question here?

In order to achieve the unity Mr. Clinton calls for, what exactly will we have to set aside as not important? Not worth dividing over?

And what will the NBC folks be willing to give up to achieve that same unity?

I think Mr. Clinton is speaking of "unity" only on his terms.
 

Baptist in Richmond

Active Member
donnA said:
we contribute it to how many times he's committed adultery, after all there plenty in the news then.

Well, I have only know of him admitting to one instance.....

BTW, I actually got to see former President Bill Clinton this afternoon right here in Richmond. He is one of the best public speakers I have ever seen. Whether or not you agree with his politics, you should always jump at the chance to see a current or former POTUS.

Regards,
BiR
 

Alcott

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Baptist in Richmond said:
BTW, I actually got to see former President Bill Clinton this afternoon right here in Richmond. He is one of the best public speakers I have ever seen.

It seems you should get out more.
 

Timsings

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Revmitchell said:
ATLANTA — A meeting of liberal Baptists has wrapped in Atlanta with a call to action from former President, Bill Clinton.


According to the Religion News Service, Clinton told the delegates that there must be a renewed push to heal ideological splits with more conservative Baptists. "We have to meet this schism with respectful disagreement. "We must approach those who disagree with an outstretched hand, not a clenched fist." . . .

I think it would better to consider the positive side of this. Here is the link to the New Baptist Covenant web site. I have talked to several people who attended the meetings in Atlanta. One of them, a retired SBC official, told me it was one of the greatest meetings he had ever attended. Also, we had an article in The Tennessean about a man who had planned to leave when Clinton spoke because he was convinced that it would turn political. He said Clinton did much better than he expected.

I would have loved attending this meeting, but my work schedule was too tight for me to get away. I understand the criticisms that have been levelled against Clinton, Gore, and Carter, because people on this forum don't like them nor their positions. However, if they're waiting for somebody who's perfect to step forward, nothing will ever get done. And, if you have known somebody who should have done something like this, why haven't they done something already? What have they been waiting for? You should beware of speaking against someone for taking an initiative that you are unwilling to take.

Tim Reynolds
 

saturneptune

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This thread is quite amusing. It started with Bill Clinton calling for Baptist unity. It changed to an argument which party's candidates are more ungodly (ie, abortion or torture, war).

My guess is, God looks down at both of our major parties, and Sodom and Gomorrah comes to His mind.
 

Magnetic Poles

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donnA said:
we contribute it to how many times he's committed adultery, after all there plenty in the news then.
How many times was that? There was lots of inuendo, but nothing except his affair with Monica, which he apologized for.
 

dcorbett

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Magnetic Poles said:
What plea bargain was that?
a quote from an Aired February 18, 2001 CNN News interview with Kyra Phillips:

MILES O'BRIEN,CNN ANCHOR : Enough already.

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: This guy -- this guy attracts controversy wherever he is. I mean, I can think of six controversies since the last week of his presidency. You had the pardons, the plea bargaining over the Monica Lewinsky affair, you had the plunder of the White House, the pranks that were supposedly done, speaking engagements, which have become controversial -- some of them have been canceled -- and now his office space. Here we see him in Harlem.
He remains a very divisive figure. These are his fervent admirers among the people he's going to be working with in the Harlem area of New York. But you know, a "Newsweek" poll asks should this President -- former president be the target of criminal investigations, which the U.S. attorney has started. And take a look at this: You've got virtually an even split: 43 no, 42 yes, which indicates this president remains intensely divisive.
 

Timsings

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saturneptune said:
This thread is quite amusing. It started with Bill Clinton calling for Baptist unity. It changed to an argument which party's candidates are more ungodly (ie, abortion or torture, war).

My guess is, God looks down at both of our major parties, and Sodom and Gomorrah comes to His mind.


The way this thread has played out has made Clinton's case for unity better than he did. :D

Tim Reynolds
 

southern_saint

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SALTCITYBAPTIST said:
How can there be unity when some believe in abortion
when some believe that the government should finance the slackers
when some believe that sexual immorality is acceptable
when some believe that homosexual is normal
when some believe that sprinkling is a substitute for immersion
when some believe that Bible story's such as Jonah & the great fish and Crossing of the Red Sea are nothing more than moral stories - ie not factual events

Salty



AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JustChristian

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bobbyd said:
Did this baptist meeting that was organized by so many former/anti-SBC voices really have any credibility?


In a very real sense the SBC is a former American (Northern) Baptist denomination. They left the combined denomination for two reasons:

1) Slavery,

2) Perceived control by the Northern Baptists.

The second point is much like the reason the CBF left the SBC. The Fundamentalists controlled the convention and weren't willing to give up their power.
 

Crabtownboy

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Hatred drips

The hatred I see dripping from some of the posts here is both very sad and very un-Christian.:tonofbricks:
 

Timsings

Member
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Tom Butler said:
May I ask a question here?

In order to achieve the unity Mr. Clinton calls for, what exactly will we have to set aside as not important? Not worth dividing over?

And what will the NBC folks be willing to give up to achieve that same unity?

Hmm, let's see. How about conservatives drop inerrancy?

Um, maybe we can drop our insistence on receiving members who have been baptized by immersion.

Surely our pro-life position can be set aside for unity's sake.

Can anybody add to this list?

Oh, and we can drop our insistence that the NBC-CBF folks jettison any of their views. That ought to do it.


I think that the only view that needs to dropped by both sides is the "I'm right, and if you don't agree with me, you're going to Hell" view.

Tim Reynolds
 

JustChristian

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Revmitchell said:
ATLANTA — A meeting of liberal Baptists has wrapped in Atlanta with a call to action from former President, Bill Clinton.


According to the Religion News Service, Clinton told the delegates that there must be a renewed push to heal ideological splits with more conservative Baptists. "We have to meet this schism with respectful disagreement. "We must approach those who disagree with an outstretched hand, not a clenched fist."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/


Some nerve he has. And what are these folks doing having him speak. Aside form their ungodly agenda to begin with having this fella who cheats on his wife without shame attempt to tell anyone how they should live or act is ridiculous until he repents. They certainly have lost any shred of credibility they had to begin with.

Have you ever looked at another woman with lust in your heart? If so then you've cheated on your wife.
 

I Am Blessed 24

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Being tempted is not sin. Even Jesus was tempeted by Satan. Carrying through by committing the act is sin.

Thinking about murdering someone is not sin, nor is it illegal. Actually committing murder is not only sin, it is illegal.

If a man cannot control his own lusts, he has no business trying to tell Christians what to do...
 
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