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Bill Clinton ~~ what a guy!

DQuixote

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http://tinyurl.com/3c7673

As mnm mentioned in another thread, if Hillary gets in it will be Bill's third term in office. She's promised to use him as a world ambassador. He just won't go away.........

:1_grouphug: <----praying for sanity in D.C., both sides of the aisle, the WH, and the courts. There's been precious little of it in recent years.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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DQuixote said:
http://tinyurl.com/3c7673

As mnm mentioned in another thread, if Hillary gets in it will be Bill's third term in office. She's promised to use him as a world ambassador. He just won't go away.........

:1_grouphug: <----praying for sanity in D.C., both sides of the aisle, the WH, and the courts. There's been precious little of it in recent years.

And that has alot to do with the support behind the coat tail rider. What many libs really want is to have Bill back in office.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
It is undeniable that from an objective standpoint that Bill Clinton was a better president than George W. Bush has been so far. That's a sad statement but it is true.
 

Baptist in Richmond

Active Member
KenH said:
It is undeniable that from an objective standpoint that Bill Clinton was a better president than George W. Bush has been so far. That's a sad statement but it is true.

:laugh:

Regards Ken - hope all is well,
BiR
 

mcdirector

Active Member
KenH said:
It is undeniable that from an objective standpoint that Bill Clinton was a better president than George W. Bush has been so far. That's a sad statement but it is true.

I wouldn't go that far, but I would say that our last 2 presidents have both been rather disappointing to say the least.
 

Martin

Active Member
KenH said:
It is undeniable that from an objective standpoint that Bill Clinton was a better president than George W. Bush has been so far. That's a sad statement but it is true.

==I think we would have been better off with Al Gore. Don't get me wrong I don't like Al Gore (in any way). However we knew where Gore stood. He was and is a big government liberal. With Bush, however, we were lied to. He claimed to believe in small government, he claimed that he did not believe in nation building, and he claimed that he would work to bring the nation together. None of that, and I repeat, none of that was true. George W Bush was not and is not a conservative. He is a big government liberal who happens to be somewhat conservative on some social issues, that's all. Even there we don't know how conservative he really is. What is really sad is how so many Christians seem to think that Bush is the best thing since sliced bread. They refuse to think critically about anything he has done. In some circles saying that Bush is a bad president is almost considered sinful. They ignore the growing federal government, they ignore the poorly managed war in Iraq, they ignore the almost willfull divisions, they ignore the poor excuses and silly cover-ups, and they ignore the deceptions. That is all very sad. Personally I believe history will judge George W Bush as one of the worst presidents in American History.
 

Martin

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DQuixote said:
http://tinyurl.com/3c7673

As mnm mentioned in another thread, if Hillary gets in it will be Bill's third term in office. She's promised to use him as a world ambassador. He just won't go away.........

:1_grouphug: <----praying for sanity in D.C., both sides of the aisle, the WH, and the courts. There's been precious little of it in recent years.

==Then get ready for Clinton term 3. I predict that Hillary will be the next president of the United States of America. I am not saying that I want her to be president, I don't, I am only saying that I believe her victory is highly likely. Btw, I don't see a Hillary/Obama ticket. I see a Hillary/Edwards ticket.

Personally I am voting for Ron Paul.
 

Cutter

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Martin said:
== With Bush, however, we were lied to. He claimed to believe in small government, he claimed that he did not believe in nation building, and he claimed that he would work to bring the nation together. None of that, and I repeat, none of that was true. George W Bush was not and is not a conservative. He is a big government liberal who happens to be somewhat conservative on some social issues, that's all.

I agree. Bush is one of the most fiscally irresponsible of all Presidents.
 

Analgesic

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Martin said:
==Then get ready for Clinton term 3. I predict that Hillary will be the next president of the United States of America. I am not saying that I want her to be president, I don't, I am only saying that I believe her victory is highly likely. Btw, I don't see a Hillary/Obama ticket. I see a Hillary/Edwards ticket.

Well said.
 

DQuixote

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Bush blundered when he thought he would outdo the Democrats by asking Congress to implement some of their precious socialist programs: Prescription drugs, Education. The tax breaks stimulated the economy, but runaway spending burdened we taxpayers as far into the future as we can see. Instead of reducing the size of government and the federal payroll, both got bigger. He blundered when he created this "Road Map for Peace" in the Middle East. He blundered when his administration failed to anticipate the uprising in Iraq. The other side of that coin is great appointments to the Supremes and the federal bench, banning abortion in military hospitals, banning stem cell research from aborted fetuses, recognizing the Constitutional intent of separation of church and state, opposing same-sex marriages, and endorsing lots of other issues which most Christians agree on.

Another HillBilly Clinton administration will set back the positive gains forever. The Supremes will be packed with liberal justices, as well as federal courts and U.S. attorneys; abortion will become wholesale; stem cell research will be approved; a dagger will be driven into the heart of the Christian view of separation of church and state; same sex marriages will be routine; and lots of other issues detrimental to most Christians will be implemented.

The "Wizard of Is" will be back.
 

KenH

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DQuixote said:
Another HillBilly Clinton administration will set back the positive gains forever.

No actions in politics are ever written in stone.

The odds are that we will have another Clinton administration. If so, it will interesting to see if the posters who have been so in favor of the exercise of executive power by President George W. Bush will change their tune when the executive power is being exercised by President Hillary Rodham Clinton.
 
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Hope of Glory

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I think that Bush, while not the worst president in recent history, is pretty lousy.

That being said, I think he's lightyears ahead of Kerry or Gore.

I would vote for him again before I voted for either of those two, and in general, I'm opposed to voting for a non-candidate (third party), which is, in effect, a vote for the worse of two evils.

However, if Guiliani gets the republican nomination, I will violate this principle: I will vote third party. I think I would rather see Mrs. Bill Clinton in office than Guiliani for the simple reason that she wants to be popular, so will be just a little bit conservative to appease the other side and try to look good. Guiliani will do what he thinks is "right", which seems to be just as liberal as any democrat out there.
 

Hope of Glory

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KenH said:
No actions in politics are ever written in stone.

The odds are that we will have another Clinton administration. If so, it will interesting to see if the posters who have been so in favor of the exercise of executive power by President George W. Bush will change their tune when the executive power is being exercised by President Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I don't base what I think is right or wrong on who it is. I was in favor of Clinton getting the line item veto, because even though I suspect he would use it terribly, I think it's a good idea.

I am in favor of the legal way that Bush has used his executive power, but opposed to the illegal way. I think that Mrs. Bill Clinton should have the same power to use it legally, but should be held accountable for the illegal use of it. (I think Bush should be held accountable, as well, if there is proof of illegal use of it.)
 

just-want-peace

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Well stated HOG!

What's right is right, regardless of the party in charge.

However, and this is the biggie, misuse of powers should be SEVERLY PUNISHED, again regardless of which party is in charge.

(Meanwhile I'm watching the sky for porcine aviators!)
 

hillclimber1

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Hope of Glory said:
but opposed to the illegal way. I think that Mrs. Bill Clinton should have the same power to use it legally, but should be held accountable for the illegal use of it. (I think Bush should be held accountable, as well, if there is proof of illegal use of it.)

I would like to see where GWB has used any of his constitutional powers illegally. Kindly inform me.

Mrs. Slick will not hesitate to use power corruptly. Her, and his lives are replete with illegal acts.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
hillclimber1 said:
I would like to see where GWB has used any of his constitutional powers illegally. Kindly inform me.

Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, domestic surveillance, claiming the power of "The Decider" as to which laws he will obey, etc.

This may come as a shock to some people on this board but George W. Bush is not the Son of God who died for their sins.
 

Hope of Glory

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hillclimber1 said:
I would like to see where GWB has used any of his constitutional powers illegally. Kindly inform me.

There aren't any. There are some that could be argued that are reprehensible, but not illegal. Last I checked, reprehensible actions aren't criminal offenses like perjury or something.
 
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