Bill O’Reilly and the Right’s Morality Problem

[FollowTheWay]

No you couldn't.

The Redeemer still takes the punishment as the substitute. The rule of law is not ignored...it is fulfilled.

I'm talking about our country's laws not God's laws. They are separate and sometimes contradictory. It's not wise to ignore either one but for God's laws are my dominant concern. God will forgive us if we repent. The U.S. might throw you in prison for 50 years.

 

[InTheLight]

Bill Clinton was impeached for that (an absurd political action by the GOP). But if you want to bring that up the logical extension is that trump should be impeached for doing far worse things than Clinton did.

No, Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury.

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[FollowTheWay]

No, Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury.

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Correct. Actually and obstruction of justice. I see plenty of opportunity to impeach Trump on both of these charges as well. For one thing, he just fired the official leading the Justice Department's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the 2016 election. In addition the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. David Nunes, shared information with Trump before introducing it to the committee and tried to stop the commission from meeting. Trump was complicit in this activity. I would call both of these acts obstruction of justice. Perjury? That is an extremely fertile area with regard to Trump given the number of times he has lied about almost everything.

 

[InTheLight]

Perjury? That is an extremely fertile area with regard to Trump given the number of times he has lied about almost everything.

Perjury is lying under oath. Trump hasn't done that.

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[FollowTheWay]

Perjury is lying under oath. Trump hasn't done that.

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Are you certain about that? And what about the obstruction of justice examples I gave?

 

[InTheLight]

Are you certain about that? And what about the obstruction of justice examples I gave?

Has Trump been under oath since he's become President? No.

As to firing the Justice Department official, that is his prerogative. As to Nunes meeting with him, so what? You say Trump was complicit in this, yeah, insofar as he was in a meeting.

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[Earth Wind and Fire]

Our world has a morality problem, it's called sin. Every moment of every day it oozes through the pores of humanity. It infests us and leaves us dead in our trespasses. We desperately need a Redeemer.

Correct......a Redeemer, not Trump!

 

[FollowTheWay]

Has Trump been under oath since he's become President? No.

As to firing the Justice Department official, that is his prerogative. As to Nunes meeting with him, so what? You say Trump was complicit in this, yeah, insofar as he was in a meeting.

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Firing the Justice Dept. official is not his prerogative if it was done to coverup a crime. It was the coverup that took down Richard Nixon. The President is not above the law.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Firing the Justice Dept. official is not his prerogative if it was done to coverup a crime. It was the coverup that took down Richard Nixon. The President is not above the law.

Unfortunately, that is not the perception of this president. Remember this comment "I can stand in the middle of Park Ave and shoot somebody and nobody would convict me"....that is a good measure of invincibility, an above the law complex. Some would go so far to say a tyrant complex.

 

[InTheLight]

Firing the Justice Dept. official is not his prerogative if it was done to coverup a crime. It was the coverup that took down Richard Nixon. The President is not above the law.

The acting assistant attorney general serves at the pleasure of the President. She was fired because she would not defend Trump's travel ban directive.

What crime do you think Trump was covering up that he fired the acting assistant attorney general?

 

[FollowTheWay]

The acting assistant attorney general serves at the pleasure of the President. She was fired because she would not defend Trump's travel ban directive.

What crime do you think Trump was covering up that he fired the acting assistant attorney general?

Mary McCord, the Department of Justice's acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security who is leading the investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, is stepping down from her post. (fired by TYrump)

 

[FollowTheWay]

Unfortunately, that is not the perception of this president. Remember this comment "I can stand in the middle of Park Ave and shoot somebody and nobody would convict me"....that is a good measure of invincibility, an above the law complex. Some would go so far to say a tyrant complex.

I agree. Trump is acting more like a dictator than a president of a democratic society.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Has Trump been under oath since he's become President? No.

As to firing the Justice Department official, that is his prerogative. As to Nunes meeting with him, so what? You say Trump was complicit in this, yeah, insofar as he was in a meeting.

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OK maybe the thrust of the case against Trump is obstructing justice but if the connection with Russia to change the result of the election is ever investigated I believe we can add treason to that.

 

[Reynolds]

Good Red State opinion piece:

Bill O’Reilly and the Right’s Morality Problem

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Right has a morality problem. It is evident in the leaders of the party and some of the pundits we misguidedly idolize.

Bill O’Reilly is the latest example.

Bill O'Reilly and the Right's Morality Problem

Bill is not "right" by a long shot. He is s centrist. He has never claimed any high moral value.

 

[carpro]

OK maybe the thrust of the case against Trump is obstructing justice but if the connection with Russia to change the result of the election is ever investigated I believe we can add treason to that.

There is no case against Trump that warrants impeachment. Period.

 

[carpro]

Bill is not "right" by a long shot. He is s centrist. He has never claimed any high moral value.

I'd say center right, but I rarely watched him. And I never saw any show or clip where he claimed any moral authority at all.

But like I said, I didn't see his show as much as I saw clips here and there.

 

[Reynolds]

I'd say center right, but I rarely watched him. And I never saw any show or clip where he claimed any moral authority at all.

But like I said, I didn't see his show as much as I saw clips here and there.

You have to look at his entire broadcasting career. Fox moved him on air to be slightly center right, but he as a person is centrist if not slightly left of center.

 

[carpro]

You have to look at his entire broadcasting career. Fox moved him on air to be slightly center right, but he as a person is centrist if not slightly left of center.

Can't really argue the point effectively. I just wasn't tuned in enough. It's just the impression I got. I don't know him at all as "person", just as a TV talk show host.

 

[FollowTheWay]

There is no case against Trump that warrants impeachment. Period.

I disagree with you. Period.

 

[Reynolds]

I disagree with you. Period.

Lay out the case item by item.