Birth Certificate Found

[targus]

The "birthers" will never believe Obama is a natural born citizen regardless of what is shown.

You are unable to say this truthfully since you do not know what others will believe in the future given some as yet occurred event.

There is a three letter word for people who say things that they do not know to be true.

BTW - some of those "birthers" just might believe the actual long form birth certificate - the one thing that "the one" has refused to profer.

Why would you suppose that he is refusing to show it?

 

[saturneptune]

I made reference above to a President Biden if this was ever proven. Would that be the case? If he was not eligible to run, how could Biden have ever been elected VP since there was no true result for President? Who would be President? Would it require impeachment, or would it be an automatic vacancy?

 

[carpro]

I made reference above to a President Biden if this was ever proven. Would that be the case? If he was not eligible to run, how could Biden have ever been elected VP since there was no true result for President? Who would be President? Would it require impeachment, or would it be an automatic vacancy?

I believe it would require a new election since the first one would have been held under fraudulent circumstances.

It's more likely that, even if Obama admitted being born in Kenya, nothing at all would be done. The Constitution certainly doesn't matter to liberals and there are 4 ideologues on SCOTUS and one fence rider. Anything could happen.

SCOTUS is afraid of the issue.

 

[alatide]

So what?

Why is it worth $800,000 to keep from releasing the original birth certificate and living up to his oath of office?

This is the act of either a desperate man or a crook.

When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.

 

[alatide]

Off topic and non-responsive.

You made the statement that Obama had tried but was unable to obtain his birth certificate.

Please show your proof or we will know that you are only making this up.

(I think that this is pretty close to the line that I recall you pulling on others several times before.)

No, I said that is a possible explanation which doesn't involve a conspiracy theory which is what you're pushing.

 

[targus]

When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.

That does not mean that the long form cannot be obtained however.


http://www.ednews.org/articles/unveiled-hawaiis-1961-long-form-birth-certificates.html

"The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility."

Also from that article...

"WND also reported the Hawaii Department of Heath affirmed that no paper birth certificate records were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping in 2001."

"The statement to WND by Janice Okubo, public information officer for state's health department, contradicted CNN U.S. President Jon Klein, who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing Obama's birth certificate on the air. Klein insisted the issue was "dead" because Obama's original long-form birth certificate had been destroyed by the Hawaii DOH in the conversion to electronic files."


So what we have is a lot of excuses... but no simple birth certificate.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

I believe it would require a new election since the first one would have been held under fraudulent circumstances.

Anyone who thinks there is the slightest chance that this noise will result in the removal of President Obama from office is seriously suffering from some misfiring synapses.

 

[carpro]

Anyone who thinks there is the slightest chance that this noise will result in the removal of President Obama from office is seriously suffering from some misfiring synapses.

I can't imagine why you left out the rest of my post. Couldn't be because it clearly indicates I believe nothing will happen, could it?

Intellectual dishonest is one of your stocks in trade.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

I can't imagine why you left out the rest of my post. Couldn't be because it clearly indicates I believe nothing will happen, could it?

Intellectual dishonest is one of your stocks in trade.

Your personal attack aside, your post is there for all to read. It is perfectly legitimate to extract a part of it and address that...not at you...but to make a related point. It ain't all about you!

 

[carpro]

Your personal attack aside, your post is there for all to read. It is perfectly legitimate to extract a part of it...

Especially when one wishes to change the meaning, intent, or tenor of the copied post, as in this case.

As I said, intellectually dishonest.

 

[Crabtownboy]

It's more likely that, even if Obama admitted being born in Kenya, nothing at all would be done.

It would not matter, his mother was a natural born US citizen, thus her child, at birth, would also be a US citizen. Aren't US missionaries kids US citizens?

But, he was born in Hawaii, so the Kenya matter is mute.

 

[Salty]

personal attack is perfectly legitimate !

But make sure everything is in context

 

[carpro]

It would not matter, his mother was a natural born US citizen, thus her child, at birth, would also be a US citizen. Aren't US missionaries kids US citizens?

But, he was born in Hawaii, so the Kenya matter is mute.

Better brush up on your 1961 citizenship laws.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Better brush up on your 1961 citizenship laws.

Yes, you should do just that.

Hmmmmm, but then I know you won't so here ............

# Anyone born inside the United States *
# Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

# Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

# Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

# Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

# Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

# Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache...=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a

Note the following taken from the above list:

# Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

His mother was born in the US. She lived in the US, went to and graduated from high school in Idaho, went to college in the US.

Case closed.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Better brush up on your 1961 citizenship laws.

Yes, you should do just that. However as he was born in Hawaii he question is mute.

 

[carpro]

Yes, you should do just that.

Hmmmmm, but then I know you won't so here ............



Note the following taken from the above list:



His mother was born in the US. She lived in the US, went to and graduated from high school in Idaho, went to college in the US.

Case closed.

:laugh:

Hardly. How old was his mother? Did you overlook that little detail? Or just decide to kind of leave it out.

Read it again and pick up your comprehension skills a notch.

Maybe you;ll get it. Maybe not.

Remember...1961 law. Try not to get confused.

 

[poncho]

Eight hundred thousand to one million dollars (our dollars?) is alot of mullah to spend on something that doesn't matter.

Whatever he's trying to keep hiden seems to matter a great deal to him.

 

[Salty]

Eight hundred thousand to one million dollars (our dollars?) is alot of mullah to spend on something that doesn't matter.

Whatever he's trying to keep hiden seems to matter a great deal to him.

Could it be his "real" mother is not an American citizen

 

[poncho]

Could it be his "real" mother is not an American citizen

Dunno. We'll probably never know as Obama has an endless supply of our tax dollars to keep whatever he is hiding secret.

 

[carpro]

Eight hundred thousand to one million dollars (our dollars?) is alot of mullah to spend on something that doesn't matter.

Whatever he's trying to keep hiden seems to matter a great deal to him.

The last figure I saw was $930,000,000 to keep it from being seen.

Mine casts $23. Would anyone like to see it?