Birth Control is Abortion!

[Crabtownboy]

Then you will be knowingly trying to
prevent your wife and you from being fruitful.

How much fruit do you want?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

Can you show me that verse?

How come you need to read the words from a book to
know that it is not acceptable to God for you or your husband of your own
doing...to bring about the prevention of your womb
from bearing the fruit, of your God given union with your husband?

Why do you want to play God?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

How much fruit do you want?

Are you telling me that God does not determine life?

 

[annsni]

How come you need to read the words from a book to
know that it is not acceptable to God for you or your husband of your own
doing...to bring about the prevention of your womb
from bearing the fruit, of your God given union with your husband?

Why do you want to play God?

No need to play God. He can overcome mountains - He controls the womb. I could do all to prevent egg and sperm from meeting and it could very well still meet (how many women have become pregnant due to "failure" of their birth control?).

Trust me - I have dealt with fertility and infertility for over 28 years. It is a miracle and blessing that I have 4 children. For one of them, my husband was literally out of town for when I was ovulating and yet God overcame that obstacle and gave us our now 13 year old son.

So now let me ask you this: Do you use medicine to deal with any illness you might have? Have you taken antibiotics? Have you taken any other medication? Why?

 

[Yeshua1]

How come you need to read the words from a book to
know that it is not acceptable to God for you or your husband of your own
doing...to bring about the prevention of your womb
from bearing the fruit, of your God given union with your husband?

Why do you want to play God?

NO verse in bible states that it is a sin for married couple to practice birth control, just sinful to abort if life has procrated!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Are you telling me that God does not determine life?

I was asking you a question. Do you have an answer?

 

[Deacon]

Some birth control measures (such as an IUD) prevent a fertilized ova from implanting in the placenta.
Most birth control pills simply control ovulation. There may be a slight tendency for some to decrease the probability implantation.
Yet it isn't infrequent that fertilized ova naturally fail to implant whether or not birth control measures were used.

IMO, sometimes not having children is selfish,
Other times it is righteous.

God has given us the ability to reason.

It is heart wrenching to see children suffer poverty and neglect.

It is wrong for a couple have children if they cannot properly nurture and support them.

God said to multiply and fill the earth - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. :laugh:

Rob

 

[Trying2DoRight]

NO verse in bible states that it is a sin to practice birth control

Really? In all the bible there is nothing
about birth control?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

IF the couple together mutually agree to have and use birth control, no sin, but if the Lord still allows for the new life still, then to abort the baby would be a sin!

Really? What is your source of information?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

So you are saying if a husband and wife refrain from relationship - then they are sinning as that too would be preventing abortion.

Taking that a step further - a person not getting married and remaining a virgin.......

No I can t see how it is I said that. Is that what you read into what I said?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

I had made a post about the OP's spamming at other boards, but nevermind.....

Spamming????? You mean like this here you did on this thread?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

The rhythm method would also be prohibiting life--probably not abortion.

We have something skewed about: "be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth"--a Divine Directive which has not been recinded.

Family planning: a curious phenomenon.

What about tubal ligations, vasectomies and such?

There is a lot of scripture in which God deals with mankind before birth.

The Will of God will be done--whether we participate or not.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

Maybe I am wrong to believe this...but I think anyone with the Spirit of God within them or them that know God, will know what is and is not acceptable to God concerning ...birth control. Am I wrong to believe this?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

No need to play God. He can overcome mountains - He controls the womb. I could do all to prevent egg and sperm from meeting and it could very well still meet (how many women have become pregnant due to "failure" of their birth control?).

Trust me - I have dealt with fertility and infertility for over 28 years. It is a miracle and blessing that I have 4 children. For one of them, my husband was literally out of town for when I was ovulating and yet God overcame that obstacle and gave us our now 13 year old son.

So now let me ask you this: Do you use medicine to deal with any illness you might have? Have you taken antibiotics? Have you taken any other medication? Why?

Did you get offended?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

I was asking you a question. Do you have an answer?

You asked me a question that was far
more vague, than the answer I gave back in return.

 

[Trying2DoRight]

Please continue to tell me what your believe.

Thank you for your participation.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Please continue to tell me what your believe.

Thank you for your participation.

Not sure who you are asking. But if you are asking me, I believe you avoid questions.

So, I ask again, how much fruit do you want?

 

[Trying2DoRight]

Not sure who you are asking. But if you are asking me, I believe you avoid questions.

So, I ask again, how much fruit do you want?

I want all the fruit that God will give me. Please feel free to ask me anything you so desire.

Be fruitful.

 

[Salty]

So you are saying if a husband and wife refrain from relationship - then they are sinning as that too would be preventing abortion.

Taking that a step further - a person not getting married and remaining a virgin.......

No I can t see how it is I said that. Is that what you read into what I said?

I tried to correct my statment, but it was too late to edit.
instead of saying "...that too would be preventing abortion." I should have said "...that too would be preventing conception"

"Trying2doright" I'm not sure if you were commenting on my incorrect statement. However, you did state in the OP that " prohibiting conception and in turn aborting
and prohibiting human life.". If a man or women do not get married -they are prohibiting conception and according to you aborting and prohibiting human life.

 

[Walter]

NO verse in bible states that it is a sin for married couple to practice birth control, just sinful to abort if life has procrated!

I'm going to disagree with you here (shocking!) Yeshua 1. There is at least one form of contraception specifically mentioned in the bible and it is condemned. What is commonly know today as Coitus interruptus. Remember when Onan used to to avoid fulfilling his duty according to the ancient Jewish law of fathering children for one’s dead brother? 'Judah said to Onan, ‘Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.’ But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife he spilled his semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord' (Gen. 38:8–10).

 

[Walter]

I want to add that the law stated that not giving your brother's widow children was public humiliation, not death (Deut. 25:7–10). But Onan received death as punishment for his crime. Why? He lost his life because he violated natural law.