Thank you. I didn't know that.Theodore P. Letis had died in 2005 at age 53.
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Thank you. I didn't know that.Theodore P. Letis had died in 2005 at age 53.
What about the Greek new testament, SBL edition?Maurice Robinson and William G. Pierpont, ed., The New Testament in the Original Greek, Byzantine Textform 2005, 2nd ed. Southborough, MA: Chilton Book Publishing, 2005.
This is the nicest Greek NT I have, and I have many. It has a beautiful hardback burgundy and black cover with gold writing. It has a ribbon marker, which very few Greek NTs have. The font is very readable, unlike UBS 4 rev., which has the worst Greek font in existence. It also has a very readable apparatus compared to the Hodges-Farstad Majority text. One thing some may find confusing is that the order of the NT books is the Byzantine order rather than the one most are used to, with the general epistles coming together before the Pauline epistles.
The book starts out with a 23 page preface, which educates the reader on how the text was established, what Byzantine priority is, what the eclectic position is, etc. At the end of the book is an appendix with Dr. Robinson's more technical presentation of Byzantine priority, already mentioned above.
All in all, this is my favorite Greek NT in every way.
I don't have these. Feel free to comment on them.What about the Greek new testament, SBL edition?
or the one now put put by Tyndale. Greek new testament?
The Greek new testament put out by Tyndale has a very impressive layout look, and is easy to read, and does have glosses down below the main text for words occurring believe 30 times or more in the text, but has no critical apparatus as of nowI don't have these. Feel free to comment on them.
The Tyndale House Greek New Testament uses the New Testament text of Samuel Tregelles (1813–1875) as its base text.The Greek new testament put out by Tyndale has a very impressive layout look, and is easy to read, and does have glosses down below the main text for words occurring believe 30 times or more in the text, but has no critical apparatus as of now
The Tyndale House Greek New Testament uses the New Testament text of Samuel Tregelles (1813–1875) as its base text.
In keeping with Tregelles’s documentary approach we have sought to reduce the likelihood that any reading adopted is a mere scribal aberration by insisting that our text be attested in two or more Greek manuscripts, at least one being from the fifth century or earlier.” p 505.
"… our aim has been to produce a text with a high degree of directly verified antiquity so that users of this edition will have the benefit of knowing that any reading printed in this text rests on early testimony.” p. 507.
"The limited apparatus is designed primarily to illustrate the decision-making process, which has focussed on Greek witnesses of the first millennium. We recognize, of course, that versional and patristic witnesses add significantly to our knowledge of the history of the transmission of the New Testament text. Nevertheless, we have not felt that at any point their witness was strong enough to change the decisions we made on the basis of the Greek manuscripts. p. 507.
Maurice Robinson and William G. Pierpont, ed., The New Testament in the Original Greek, Byzantine Textform 2005, 2nd ed. Southborough, MA: Chilton Book Publishing, 2005.
One thing some may find confusing is that the order of the NT books is the Byzantine order rather than the one most are used to, with the general epistles coming together before the Pauline epistles.
Very interesting!It’s interesting that the order the NT books is not a canonical issue.
In the 1st and 2nd Nestle editions (1898 and 1899) the book of Hebrews is found between 3 John and James (the "Catholic Epistles") so the order is:
1-2 Peter, 1-3 John, Hebrews, James and Jude, Revelation in that order, which is the way Luther arranged his NT.
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Rob
Thanks, and does seem to be a decent Greek NT for study use, but due to lack of a critical apparatus not for detail textual studiesThe Tyndale House Greek New Testament uses the New Testament text of Samuel Tregelles (1813–1875) as its base text.
"Since his time many early witnesses, especially on papyrus, have come to light. These in turn have allowed analyses of early scribal habits, which would not have been as possible in Tregelles’s day.
Our revision of Tregelles has ended up being more thoroughgoing than we had expected, such that this is now a completely new edition, rather than a light revision. In keeping with Tregelles’s documentary approach we have sought to reduce the likelihood that any reading adopted is a mere scribal aberration by insisting that our text be attested in two or more Greek manuscripts, at least one being from the fifth century or earlier.” p 505.
"… our aim has been to produce a text with a high degree of directly verified antiquity so that users of this edition will have the benefit of knowing that any reading printed in this text rests on early testimony.” p. 507.
"The limited apparatus is designed primarily to illustrate the decision-making process, which has focussed on Greek witnesses of the first millennium. We recognize, of course, that versional and patristic witnesses add significantly to our knowledge of the history of the transmission of the New Testament text. Nevertheless, we have not felt that at any point their witness was strong enough to change the decisions we made on the basis of the Greek manuscripts. p. 507.
Rob
Are you bzt only, or do you think some places that the CT/MT did actually have it closer to the original texts?Mark Billington and Peter Streitenberger, Digging for the Truth. Norden, Germany: Focus Your Mission KG, 2014. The subtitle is, “Collected Essays Regarding the Byzantine Text of the Greek New Testament.” A second subtitle is, “A Festschrift in Honor of Maurice A. Robinson.” For those unfamiliar with the term, a festschrift is a volume of essays in honor of a scholar by his scholarly friends, usually published in honor of his 65th birthday.
Contributors include Timothy Friberg, a noted missionary Bible translator and Greek lexicographer; John R. Himes, a missionary Bible translator and Greek teacher (writing on the usage in Mark of the Greek word for “immediately”; T. David Anderson, a missionary Bible translator, writing on the possibility of an Alexandrian recension; James A. Borland, a Liberty prof, writing on “The Textual Criticism of Luke 24:53 and its Implications”; Paul A. Himes, Petrine scholar and prof of ancient languages, writing on “’Burned Up’ or ‘Discovered’? The Peculiar Textual Problem of 2 Peter 3:10d”; etc.
This book had a very limited printing, so it is almost impossible to buy one even second hand nowadays. However, you may still read it, since one of the editors has put the PDF on the Internet at: Festschrift for Prof. Maurice Robinson on Textual issues of the New Testamant
All in all, I feel this is a good contribution to the debate by some well-known scholars and some not so known. I think it shows a growing and faithful following for Dr. Robinson, and for the genuineness of the Byzantine Textform and its closeness to the autographs. I think the cover is beautiful, but it has been criticized for format, since it varies from the standard editing format for such books.
Byzantine priority does not rule out such a possibility.Are you bzt only, or do you think some places that the CT/MT did actually have it closer to the original texts?
How could it possibly be? Anywhere in its text it could only be based on as little as 2 manuscripts? And you wouldn't even know because of its lack of an apparatus. Erasmus had more manuscripts than that!Thanks, and does seem to be a decent Greek NT for study use, but due to lack of a critical apparatus not for detail textual studies
MT (Majority Text) belongs with BYZ (Byzantine Text), not CT (Critical Text).Are you bzt only, or do you think some places that the CT/MT did actually have it closer to the original texts?