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Bound to No Party, Trump Upends 150 Years of Two-Party Rule

InTheLight

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Give President Trump a break.

He is no conservative. He is not exactly a liberal or anything inbetween.

Trump is Trump.

HankD

Wow.

You just said Trump's not a conservative. You said Trump's not a liberal. And you said Trump's not anything in between.

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church mouse guy

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So what should his Party be named? How about Trumpists or Trumpians. I prefer the latter.

The Democrat Party dissolving, and the Elephant Party isn't far behind in vanishing.

Slightly off the subject, but if we are going to get rid of everything that was pro-slavery, we have to get rid of the Democrat Party name.
 

Bro. James

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1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV) For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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O.K. Koine Greek scholars: what word is "all" modifying in I Tim 6:10? Please keep it less than 25 words.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
 

HankD

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O.K. Koine Greek scholars: what word is "all" modifying in I Tim 6:10? Please keep it less than 25 words.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
I'm not a scholar.
Can't keep it less than 25 words.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

The issue is root of all evil Greek : pantov ton kakon - all (plural) the (plural) evils - all and evil are plural.

πάντων τῶν κακῶν

panton - all, every (plural word)
ton - definite article (plural)
kakon - evils (plural)

literally - root for all (plural) the (plural) evils (plural) is the money(silver)-love.

Young's Literal Translation:
1 Timothy 6:10 for a root of all the evils is the love of money, which certain longing for did go astray from the faith, and themselves did pierce through with many sorrows;

HankD
 
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Bro. James

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Guess we need to analyze the word "all" and its use for the last 2000 years. That might be an interesting adventure.

"Pan " in the Koine--I will check it out.

Bro. James
 

Rippon

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In case folks have forgotten, this thread is about Trump. The last number of posts are way off the beaten track.
 

HankD

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In case folks have forgotten, this thread is about Trump. The last number of posts are way off the beaten track.
Yes off the track but IMO related, as it seems greed was focused in upon as the prime mover of a certain individual ("renegade")..
Then a question came up concerning the scripture verse in question - it has two viable translations.

True if the verse in question requires more research then another forum/post would be in order.

However we still are not sure whether Trump is motivated by "the root of all evil" or "the root of several evils" or something else.

HankD
 

HankD

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Oops, this passage is being discussed in Bible Versions and Translation: Face off Between the KJV and NIV.

HankD
 

church mouse guy

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O.K. Koine Greek scholars: what word is "all" modifying in I Tim 6:10? Please keep it less than 25 words.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

Oh, sorry but I was quoting KJV English.
 

InTheLight

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Is that beyond your scope ITL?
I know you are intelligent.

Does "independent" work for you?
:)
HankD

You say he's not a conservative and he's not a liberal and he's nothing in between. So what is he?

And, no, independent doesn't work. Independent does not indicate right/left political positions, it indicates someone is not a member of a political party.
 

HankD

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You say he's not a conservative and he's not a liberal and he's nothing in between. So what is he?

And, no, independent doesn't work. Independent does not indicate right/left political positions, it indicates someone is not a member of a political party.
Not necessarily.

Does RINO mean anything to you?

Republican in Name Only - Independent In Reality.

HankD
 

FollowTheWay

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It serves us all well, including Congress, to remember that Trump is not a conservative and never has been. Neither is he a liberal. Nor an idealogue of any kind.

He's going to make both sides of the aisle mad and use whoever he can to get what he wants.
I agree with you. When Trump tells the truth (rare) he's a typical liberal from NYC.
 
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