First, thought for the day: No matter what the ME wacko doctrine says, it's a done deal:
Now, on to the point:
I was reading some "rebuttals to the rebuttals" by Joey Faust. The most striking thing about his writing is that it is saturated with the same twisted reasoning by innuendo and implication that you will see in all of the ME defender posts here. Here's a snippet from Faust's rebuttal to the objection that some of Christ's body will spend 1,000 years in hell.
Notice that Faust does not answer the rebuttal at all. He ignores the issue of the "body" and tries to justify his bizarre theology by jumping to an unrelated scripture about cutting off branches from the vine.
Furthermore, he never even tries to support the idea that the branches which are cut off are believers. He simply assumes it, and then pretends that his (false) assumption supports the idea that parts of Christ's body will spend 1,000 years in eternal fire.
Faust never even considers the fact that the illustration of the vine may have nothing to do with the fate of believers. In fact, any honest student of the Bible will realize immediately that the illustration of the vine is talking about the fact that Jews do not have an automatic ticket for salvation just by virtue of the fact that they are Jews.
Even furthermore (if such an expression exists), he ignores these simple words: "If a man abide not in me". If a man does not abide in Christ (if he does not live in Christ), then he is not part of the body OR the vine.
My point is not that this reasoning is so flawed, although it is. My point is also not that his use of scripture so invalid, although it is. My point is that all of the twisted reasoning you read from the ME advocates on Baptist Board is EXACTLY like the twisted reasoning of Faust. It seems as if Faust has somehow managed to brainwash people into using the same twilight zone approach to scripture as he does. Quite honestly, it smacks of a cult - one person takes a pyschadelic view of scripture and then brainwashes his followers, after which people go out and preach this "truth" using the same twisted techniques.
Here is Faust's web site. See the tragedy for yourself.
http://www.kingdombaptist.org/kb2/index.cfm?filename=sermons.cfm
Now, on to the point:
I was reading some "rebuttals to the rebuttals" by Joey Faust. The most striking thing about his writing is that it is saturated with the same twisted reasoning by innuendo and implication that you will see in all of the ME defender posts here. Here's a snippet from Faust's rebuttal to the objection that some of Christ's body will spend 1,000 years in hell.
Notice that Faust does not answer the rebuttal at all. He ignores the issue of the "body" and tries to justify his bizarre theology by jumping to an unrelated scripture about cutting off branches from the vine.
Furthermore, he never even tries to support the idea that the branches which are cut off are believers. He simply assumes it, and then pretends that his (false) assumption supports the idea that parts of Christ's body will spend 1,000 years in eternal fire.
Faust never even considers the fact that the illustration of the vine may have nothing to do with the fate of believers. In fact, any honest student of the Bible will realize immediately that the illustration of the vine is talking about the fact that Jews do not have an automatic ticket for salvation just by virtue of the fact that they are Jews.
Even furthermore (if such an expression exists), he ignores these simple words: "If a man abide not in me". If a man does not abide in Christ (if he does not live in Christ), then he is not part of the body OR the vine.
My point is not that this reasoning is so flawed, although it is. My point is also not that his use of scripture so invalid, although it is. My point is that all of the twisted reasoning you read from the ME advocates on Baptist Board is EXACTLY like the twisted reasoning of Faust. It seems as if Faust has somehow managed to brainwash people into using the same twilight zone approach to scripture as he does. Quite honestly, it smacks of a cult - one person takes a pyschadelic view of scripture and then brainwashes his followers, after which people go out and preach this "truth" using the same twisted techniques.
Here is Faust's web site. See the tragedy for yourself.
http://www.kingdombaptist.org/kb2/index.cfm?filename=sermons.cfm
I doubt it has anything to do with whatever site you were visiting.