Branch Davidian Seventh Day Adventist Association

[Claudia_T]

oh well, I guess it doesnt matter, if people wanna think something they are gonna, no matter what. soooooooooooooooooo

 

[wopik]

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[D28guy]

Kamaroso,

"David Koresh beleived that he was the Lord Jesus Christ."

Thats more like Catholicism than SDAism.

(the Pope is *supposedly* the "Vicar of Christ" on earth)

"He also taught that his followers needed to forget everything they already knew about the scriptures, and listen to him alone for truth."

Again, Catholicism 101. The Teaching Magesterium.

"He certainly did not get any of this from the SDA church. I can honestly say, that in the last twnety six years of my life as an SDA, no SDA has ever told me not to read this or that, or look for myself for the truth. To the contrary, my experience is that individuals are always encouraged to be sure for themselves, what they believe. This is certainly not what a cult does with it's members."

It certainly isnt. The LAST thing a cult wants is for its people to think for themselves. The people MUST be dependant on the organisation to spoon feed them.

Mike

 

[Jarthur001]

Originally posted by Claudia_T:
JAuthur,,


AND SO WHAT??? where did I say she was infallible or hold her up to you or anyone else here as an infallible guide?

Really?

Well lets see if this too is a lie. Below you will see clips taken from the thread..” Does Ellen White qualify as a true prophet scripturally?”


Claudia post….
The National Enquirer said Jean Dixon has only a thirty percent accuracy rate. That means seven out of ten things she predicts never happen. But the National Enquirer thinks that's great! If they only knew! God's prophets have one hundred percent accuracy rate. The things they prophesy, always come to pass.

100% of the time. What is that saying? Now..if she is 100% right...i want to know what she says. This would make her as the very word of God. The Bible is the only pure truth i know of...but now we are adding Ellen.

Wait..there is more…

Claudia post….
Did you understand that? God is simply saying, especially to us in these last days: "Don't reject all prophecy, just test them, and try them, and make sure they are from Me. And when you find a genuine prophet, hold fast, and don't let them go."


When you find a “genuine prophet” hold fast to them. Humm

Now who were you talking about? As it turns out…it is Ellen White.


Claudia post…
From her first vision there in 1844, until her death in 1915, Ellen White received over 2,000 visions, wrote over 50 volumes, 100,000 pages, and over 200 million words. She was God's prophet to the Seventh-day Adventist movement, and her voluminous writings continue to lead the church to this day. Now I want to show you why, and how, she fulfills the "12 biblical bests of a true prophet."

Prophets are Infallable That is what the Bible claims..and this is what you said also.

There is no need to carry this on. I’ll drop it and give you the last word.

The full link is below if anyone wants to read this.

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/28/3612.html#000004

 

[Eliyahu]

As long as the original churches denounce, keep distance, and condemn the heretic beliefs of the split group, we should not connect the new heretic groups with the original group of churches where the split sect was originated from.

Always there have been apostasies, and will arise new apostasies even in the future.

If anyone blame the original churches as responsible for the new sects, such person can blame the whole Christianity.

Can we say this way?:
Many sects came out of Roman Catholic, and therefore Roman Catholic is responsible for all the heretic Christian heretics ?

The point is that no denomination can have the control over the split churches in the democratic society.

Satan tries every effort to accuse the people of God in any way by connecting A with B.
If any true believer misunderstand the other true believer, Satan succeeded in that aspect of Friendly Fire.
Satan's strategy is clear to deface the whole Christina believers by splitting or by insinuating the false impression against the believers.

It is a great pity that such random shooting occurs quite often.

 

[BobRyan]

Here is something almost I never do - but here goes.


This thread is on the subject of offshoots and their contrast/differences with Adventists.

There is a quote here on the subject of "Sola Scriptura" from Ellen White to which I would add another --

Had the Reformation, after attaining a degree of success, consented to temporize to secure favor with the world, it would have been untrue to God and to itself, and would thus have insured its own destruction. The experience of those noble reformers contains a lesson for all succeeding ages. Satan's manner of working against God and his Word has not changed; he is still as much opposed to the Scriptures being made the
guide of life as in the sixteenth century. In our time there is a wide departure from their doctrines and precepts, and there is need of a return to the great Protestant principle,--the Bible, and the Bible only, as the rule of faith and duty.

The Great Controversy, Chapter 11


The Faith I Live By, page 13, paragraph 2
Chapter Title: The Word and Works of God
In His Word, God has committed to men the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are to be accepted as an authoritative, infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the revealer of doctrines, and the test of experience.

So let's say for the sake of argument that I really and truly believe those two quotes. That the ONLY SOURCE to quote in a doctrinal discussion is "the Bible and the Bible only".

I mean lets just "say".

Then why would I quote "any other source" to establish a point on doctrine??

Why?

Especially in a forum where the ONLY "common ground" is The Bible - possibly a few historians and maybe a few well known well accepted Bible Scholars "NOT" of my own denomination!!

If my actions don't agree with that quote above - am I not just "asking" for a pounding on that point -- each and every time I do it??

In Christ,

Bob

 

[Jarthur001]

This was wrong to post what is listed below.

"Prophets are Infallable That is what the Bible claims..and this is what you said also."

What I meant to say...was

Prophets words of prophesy are infallible. That is what the Bible claims..and this is what you said also when you claim she was 100% right.