BREAKING: Trump Shocks In Newest Poll

[Revmitchell]

Many of the polls released by the liberal media in recent weeks have shown Republican nominee Donald Trump significantly behind Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton.

Liberals have been cheering these polls, convinced that Clinton will win in a landslide come November. However, a new poll from the Los Angeles Times painted a vastly different picture — one liberals aren’t going to be too happy about.

The Los Angeles Time tracking poll asked roughly 400 people (out of a pool of 3,000) every day their feelings on Trump and Clinton in order to see how each candidate’s popularity fluctuated in the minds of the American people.

As of today, the poll showed that when it comes for who people will vote for, Trump was only behind Clinton by 0.6 percent, well within in the poll’s margin of error. What this means is that Trump and Clinton are statistically tied — even though the liberal media keeps insisting Clinton is far ahead.

The poll showed that for a brief time after the Democrat convention, the number of people who said they would vote for Trump decreased sharply, but it has since risen.

http://conservativetribune.com/trum...tm_content=2016-08-18&utm_campaign=manualpost

 

[Revmitchell]

Donald Trump tops Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, according to a new Fox News Poll that also finds majorities of voters feel both frontrunners lack strong moral values and will say anything to get elected.

Trump has a 45-42 percent edge over Clinton, if the presidential election were held today. That’s within the poll’s margin of sampling error. Last month, Clinton was up by 48-41 percent (April 2016).


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...on-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html

 

[777]

The OP is the same poll, I see.

https://usdailywire.com/2016/08/18/trump-leads-clinton-by-6/

likely voters, an out-of-MoE Trump lead but . . . they are undersampling Democrats now AND still oversampling women. I don't think they really know who is ahead and where.

 

[StefanM]

The race appears to be tightening. Hmm.

 

[Revmitchell]

If you believe the polls yes it appears to be tightening

 

[StefanM]

If you believe the polls yes it appears to be tightening

They are far from infallible, but they are useful. Perhaps a Trump surge is at hand. We will see. I do think this may indicate somewhat that there isn't a systematic bias against Trump.

I think his speech yesterday admitting that he's said some things wrong could help him, too. It impressed me, personally. Arrogance in a President isn't helpful (cf. Obama's early years, especially), so I love to see displays of humility. I can't say if others will feel that way, but one can be a good leader and humble at the same time. The best pastors are, and I think the best Presidents may be, too.

 

[HankD]

They are far from infallible, but they are useful. Perhaps a Trump surge is at hand. We will see. I do think this may indicate somewhat that there isn't a systematic bias against Trump.

Not a political scientist but I took statistics in school so I have said from the beginning the polls are relatively worthless as there are many ways to present them.

Only just before (September-October) the election have they any true value and even then it's not reliable.
Depends who hires the best propagandists to try to encourage/discourage we the sheeple.

November will "prove the pudding" as to the best ones at "rigging" the system.

Ya, I'm a pessimist/realist - no matter who wins.

HankD

 

[InTheLight]

I think his speech yesterday admitting that he's said some things wrong could help him, too. It impressed me, personally.

Trump reads an apology off a teleprompter written by his brand new press agent claiming he's sometimes "too honest" and you buy it?

Oh my...

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[StefanM]

Trump reads an apology off a teleprompter written by his brand new press agent claiming he's sometimes "too honest" and you buy it?

Oh my...

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It's better than the alternative of doubling down on recklessness.

 

[StefanM]

Not a political scientist but I took statistics in school so I have said from the beginning the polls are relatively worthless as there are many ways to present them.

Only just before (September-October) the election have they any true value and even then it's not reliable.
Depends who hires the best propagandists to try to encourage/discourage we the sheeple.

November will "prove the pudding" as to the best ones at "rigging" the system.

Ya, I'm a pessimist/realist - no matter who wins.

HankD

Oh of course. If you are pegging the measure of reliability to the outcome in the election, then polls now are useless. They are, however, good for tracking trends. If we take them in the aggregate, they can give us some good information as of the moment.

Naturally, much can (and will) change between now and November.

 

[Revmitchell]

Trump reads an apology off a teleprompter written by his brand new press agent claiming he's sometimes "too honest" and you buy it?

Oh my...

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Seriously, you need some help. This attitude of yours is not good.

 

[InTheLight]

Here's how Trumpies think their guy is ahead...

He is tied with Hillary (within statistical margin of error) in every major credible national poll out in the past few days. Pick your poll: Zogby, Rasmussen, LA Times/USC, Bloomberg, they all say he’s down 1 or 2 points with likely voters- which is tied. In the latest LA times/USC poll he’s down less than one point.

And we all know 5% to 10% of voters won't admit they support Trump. Why would they after the three weeks of disaster I just described?

So that means he's actually AHEAD by 3 to 5 points.

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2016/08/20/hillarys-done-and-she-knows-it-n2207410

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I would not characterize Zogby and the USC/LA Times poll as being credible. I know Rasmussen has a lousy track record; don't know much about Bloomberg poll's reputation, but their latest shows Hillary up by 6% amongst likely voters.

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[Calminian]

He's actually up by 6 in another poll.

Trump 44%
Clinton 38%
POP poll: https://usdailywire.com

 

[InTheLight]

He's actually up by 6 in another poll.

Trump 44%
Clinton 38%
POP poll: https://usdailywire.com

* Online poll.
* 43% of the poll respondents were over 50 years old.
* 72% of respondents were white.

These are Trump's demographics. I'm surprised he didn't win by more.

Poll = Fail.

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[Salty]

He's actually up by 6 in another poll.

Trump 44%
Clinton 38%
POP poll: https://usdailywire.com

and most important is that the EC poll is very close

 

[InTheLight]

and most important is that the EC poll is very close

Clinton having 272 electoral votes, which is enough to win, is close?!

All-righty then!

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[Calminian]

* Online poll.
* 43% of the poll respondents were over 50 years old.
* 72% of respondents were white.

These are Trump's demographics. I'm surprised he didn't win by more.

Poll = Fail.

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A new USDW telephone and online survey....

And aren't white's the majority in his country??? And aren't the elderly the most likely voters?? Just say'n.

 

[HankD]

The polls have been exceedingly unreliable this year - to much statistical chicanery on both sides!.

HankD

 

[InTheLight]

A new USDW telephone and online survey....

And aren't white's the majority in his country??? And aren't the elderly the most likely voters?? Just say'n.

Rationalization in full play.

While the percent of voters over the age of 50 is in line with general demographics the race and ethnicity is not.

Non-Hispanic Whites in US = 63%; Poll sampled 72%
Hispanic/Latino in US = 16%; Poll sampled 9.6%

Online voting gives total anonymity to the voter and invites multiple votes by erasing cookies and changing IP addresses (voting from home, erase cookies; voting from work, erase cookies; voting from Starbucks, etc.)

It's just an unreliable way of doing polls.

 

[Calminian]

The polls have been exceedingly unreliable this year - to much statistical chicanery on both sides!.

HankD

I would agree, except the "both sides" part. I think it's fair to say 99% of media is against Trump.