I must agree. Resignations and job changes are the norm after an election, even when the new POTUS is an incumbant. We shouldn't readd too much into them, except that it's likely a slow news day. Considering that the top stories were the resignation of Colin Powell, and the calcellation of fireworks at Disneyland saturday night, I'm betting on the slow news day scenario.
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Bush Appointees are Bailing Out!!!
- Thread starter LadyEagle
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The Constitution Party just can't believe that they lost the election.
Since they weren't even on the ticket in all 50 states, this shouldn't be surprising. However, I don't criticize them just because they're a third party. I criticize them because of some of their stances. I won't list those criticisms here, because if I did, I'd have to list my criticisms of the Dem and Rep parties as well, and I just don't think the bb has that much bandwidth.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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I think "bailing out" is a bit "over the top." thsi kind of turnover is normal.
I am concerned about who will replace those who have departed.
So far we have a born again Christian replaced with a man who doesn't believe parents need to be informed about a teenage daughter's abortion.
I hope that the next choice is better.
I am concerned about who will replace those who have departed.
So far we have a born again Christian replaced with a man who doesn't believe parents need to be informed about a teenage daughter's abortion.
I hope that the next choice is better.
I agree, I think we DO need to watch who replaces those who are leaving. It's not a big deal that they are leaving, but it is a big deal
who will be replacing them.
who will be replacing them.
I would hope the Constitution Party isn't the only ones paying attention to what is going on in Washington. But, like I said before, this is not a thread about the Constitution Party, but about the new leaders of our country in Washington.
What I find incredible is that no one who voted for a CP candidate brought it up. It was someone who voted Republican who decided to trash those of us who voted for the CP.
And while my "bailing out" title may seem over the top, only time will tell. There is more to everything than meets the eye. That Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld butted horns and the President ultimately went with Rumsfled on military decisions has not been a secret. We also can't forget that it was Colin Powell who (at the President's pleasure) made a fool of himself in the eyes of the world in front of the United Nations over the WMD issue. I do smell a book deal in the works.
And while my "bailing out" title may seem over the top, only time will tell. There is more to everything than meets the eye. That Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld butted horns and the President ultimately went with Rumsfled on military decisions has not been a secret. We also can't forget that it was Colin Powell who (at the President's pleasure) made a fool of himself in the eyes of the world in front of the United Nations over the WMD issue. I do smell a book deal in the works.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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It is much easier to attack the Constitution Party and those who voted that way than it is to answer the hard questions about who is going to be chosen to replace the cabinet members who are resigning. The only words about the first choice, Gonzales, are that his soft abortion stand won't matter as Attorney General.
If wise choices are made I will be first to praise President Bush for them.
If wise choices are made I will be first to praise President Bush for them.
Attorney General John Ashcroft and Commerce Secretary Don Evans have already announced their intentions to leave the administration. In addition to Powell, three other members of President Bush's Cabinet resigned today, including Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman and Education Secretary Rod Paige.
That's six out of 15 Cabinet members to quit so far. I expect more to be leaving before January, and the big question is will Cheney step down during the first two years of this second term.
And my point, Jonathan, was that by comparison, Bush cabinet members have remarkable atability. To lose six cabinet members after 4 years is nothing, it seems to me. THe previous president went through six in about two years.
It is highly unlikely that Cheney will step down. Why would he? Usually, a cold is not something you step down over. There is no reason to think that he would.
It is highly unlikely that Cheney will step down. Why would he? Usually, a cold is not something you step down over. There is no reason to think that he would.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Until one looks at how seldom a sitting vice-president has been elected president. I believe that Bush Sr was the first since Martin van Buren.
Senior White House officials tell U.S. News that Bush plans to replace at least half his cabinet over the next few months. His aim is to remove officials who have become lightning rods for controversy or who seem to have lost their desire to serve in Washington. "The president believes it's always good to have some new faces in a new term," says a senior Bush adviser.
Source: US News
Pennsylvania Jim
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I think that the fact that there is a big shakeup is not necessarily positive or negative in itself. I'm glad that Bush is willing to make changes. I'm not optimistic that his choices will be good ones. But I'm hoping, and will give credit where it's due.
Heard that over here this morning too - anyone able to confirm that? Isn't she a Christian - teaches Sunday school or something?
Yours in Christ
Matt
Condi is a liberal Presbyterian who believes in abortion on demand.
As for the Constitution Party attacks on Bush started by Lady Eagle lately, let's look at the facts.
First, there was the pick-up from the Black Democrats that Bush was going to start a draft. Totally false, and everyone knew it.
Secondly, there was the charge that Bush should have helped Keyes in Illinois--a state that Bush could not carry for himself. That charge was further demolished by the fact that Black Republican Marvin Scott also lost for the Senate in Indiana--a fact ignored by Lady Eagle and the Constitution Party.
Finally, we have this thread where "gotcha" politics has been trying to say that routine cabinet changes are somehow political fallout. Powell, for example, had a cancer operation recently. Others are broke after some much public service. Others are tired from the war--like Ashcroft. The Constitution Party should be quiet while the GOP thanks its servants and lets them retire in peace.
But it is clear that the Constitution Party is not going to give the GOP a honeymoon even though the CP lost by over a hundred million votes.
As for the Constitution Party attacks on Bush started by Lady Eagle lately, let's look at the facts.
First, there was the pick-up from the Black Democrats that Bush was going to start a draft. Totally false, and everyone knew it.
Secondly, there was the charge that Bush should have helped Keyes in Illinois--a state that Bush could not carry for himself. That charge was further demolished by the fact that Black Republican Marvin Scott also lost for the Senate in Indiana--a fact ignored by Lady Eagle and the Constitution Party.
Finally, we have this thread where "gotcha" politics has been trying to say that routine cabinet changes are somehow political fallout. Powell, for example, had a cancer operation recently. Others are broke after some much public service. Others are tired from the war--like Ashcroft. The Constitution Party should be quiet while the GOP thanks its servants and lets them retire in peace.
But it is clear that the Constitution Party is not going to give the GOP a honeymoon even though the CP lost by over a hundred million votes.
I should think that Hillary would be more likely to have the best interests of the GOP at heart than anyone in the CP. At least Hillary has been quiet in defeat.
Pennsylvania Jim
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That makes her the ideal choice. It will spotlight her for elected office, where Evangelicals will automatically vote for her because she is a Republican, and abortionists will vote for her for her policy.
They've found the key to political success. Pay no attention to those dead babies...
May I remind you that I am not a "member" of the Constitution Party? I am a registered Republican who voted her conscience as a protest vote to the liberal leanings of our Republican Party. The word on the street is the soon to be new head of the RNC is a homosexual - he is 37 and single and refuses to answer reporter's questions about whether or not he is "gay." The man that handles the funds for the RNC is an admitted homosexual. Log Cabin Republicans have had important members of Congress and White House meet with them. The Republican Party refuses to take a firm stand on abortion and more and more pro-abort liberals are filling the ranks. I will not pledge my allegiance to any party who does not stand for what I believe on the moral issues. Perhaps these things are okay with some Republicans, but not with me.
Furthermore, I am against our porous border, Free Trade Policies, that is on this White House agenda. I do not believe these are in the best interests of America, especially when we are supposedly fighting a war on terror.
Would you shut out my voice and deprive me of my First Amendment Rights to voice dissent and criticism of the Republican Party and Republican leaders? Are we living in Nazi Germany or is this America? My voice of protest against what is happening in the Republican Party and what our elected officials are doing doesn't mean I am "for" any party - I am against the whole spiral of wickedness that has overcome our nation and our policy makers. It breaks my heart to see America bending the knee to the gods of greed, homosexuality, murder on demand, turning our back on our Judeo-Christian values that have made this nation great!
Will you vote for a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual candidate in 2008, as long as that candidate is a Republican? For that may be the choice you must make when all is said and done, if you quell the voices of dissent within your own Party.
Pennsylvania Jim
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On another thread, Galatian said:
I wonder if they'll admit that this is not a good appointment, or try to spin the fact that Gonzales called the constitution a "living document".
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I wonder if they'll admit that this is not a good appointment, or try to spin the fact that Gonzales called the constitution a "living document".
