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Nope. I believe a world wide crime ring was behind it. Now before you go off the deep end remember we were told there "is no mafia". Turned out there was though huh?

Have you ever watched the movie The Godfather?

If you have then imagine for a second all the assasinations, threats, strongarming, and bribery it took to keep them in power and behind the scenes for so long. If it wasn't for out and out warfare between the different factions calling so much attention to their criminal enterprises we might still be told there "is no mafia". The authorities had to have been complicit and in many cases were in fact found to be in order to keep all that quite and out of the daily news for so long.


Take a close look at Al Capones organization and how high up the ladder of power the corruption went even up to police chiefs and politicians. How did he manage all that? Same way as in the Godfather. Bribery, assasinations, threats, strongarming even kidnapping.

Money and power have proven over the course of mankind to do strange things to people, look how many scandals our government and the governments of other countries have been caught up in.

Yet people's eyes get all glazed over and roll up in their heads today when even the idea of a conspiracy comes up but, those same people forget that conspiracies have been proven to exist for thousands of years. Iran Contra ring any bells? If not let me clue you in...

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Our government and George W's Dad, smuggling drugs and running guns, tisk tisk. Now you might ask yourself... hey what ever happened to those guys anyway? Well, they got promoted!

Have a look at some of the evidence from 911 from mainstream sources . Ask yourself why have we heard that our government never dreamed that terrorists would use planes as missiles to attack the United States when one agency was planning to carry out a drill of a plane flying into a buildings. How about this?

How about the drills that were running at the same time as the London bombing?

Ya gotta ask yourself, what's the chances of that happening at the same time. How about One chance in 3,715,592,613,265,750,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Nope, we're being controlled by a terror campaign of fear alright but it isn't all caused by Islamic terrorists. And when the terrorists do get caught... who do they work for?

Probably best to ignore all the evidence and go on worshipping our world leaders though. They only have our best interests at heart after all.

 

Yes C4K, it did include you as a leftist. My mistake and my humblest of opologies.

 

Poncho!

 

poncho

I am really pleased that after researching and weighing all the evidence you have come to the conclusion that

 

I see that we not only have a peophet[ess] on this Forum but we also have a mind reader. Isn't that wonderful!

 

The only type of reading it takes is to pick up some of the books and scan the lines of written words that the policy planners such as Zbigniew Brzezinski have written that are available at your local bookstore.

In other words he's saying America won't go along with our plan to subdue and rule Eurasia through force without something blowing up and killing Americans.

The process that we are currently undergoing in the Middle East is called...imperial geostrategy. (his words)

 

What is an autocracy you might ask...

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Or an autocrat...

There ya have it Old Regular that's what your rooting for. (a corporate autocracy)

*Note* Mr. B was saying (wishing, planning for) this in 1997.

 

In other words he's saying America won't go along with our plan to subdue and rule Eurasia through force without something blowing up and killing Americans.

The process that we are currently undergoing in the Middle East is called...imperial geostrategy. (his words) </font>[/QUOTE]Have I heard [read] you being called a conspiracy theorist elsewhere on this Forum?

Also wasn't Zbigniew Brzezinski National Security advisor to that greatest of all presidents, smiling Jimmy Carter?

 

"Have I heard [read] you being called a conspiracy theorist elsewhere on this Forum?"

Yep, and I assume that's supposed to make everything I say [write] unbelievable even though I have posted hundreds of articles from mainstream sources, policy makers and "think tanks" to support my conclusions. You can't get better info than from the horses mouth I reckon.

But;

Marginalization and ridicule, that's the name of the game Old Regular. I don't see you posting many links to support your conclusions BTW. Just attempts at witty sarcasm and name calling for the most part...hmmmm...wonder why that is?

"Also wasn't Zbigniew Brzezinski National Security advisor to that greatest of all presidents, smiling Jimmy Carter?"

Let's have a look at his resume.

According to his resume Brzezinski, holding a 1953 Ph.D. from Harvard, lists the following achievements:

Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies

Professor of American Foreign Policy, Johns Hopkins University

National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter (1977-81)

Trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission

International advisor of several major US/Global corporations

Associate of Henry Kissinger

Under Ronald Reagan - member of NSC-Defense Department Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy

Under Ronald Reagan - member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

Past member, Board of Directors, The Council on Foreign Relations

1988 - Co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task Force.

Brzezinski is also a past attendee and presenter at several conferences of the Bilderberger group - a non-partisan affiliation of the wealthiest and most powerful families and corporations on the planet.

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I noticed he worked for the Reagan administration also.

Looks like he did a stint under Bush also.

I also noticed his connection with the CFR which has enjoyed a most prominent role in the last four administraions. The word "saturation" comes to mind and would probably be a better word to describe the actual numbers of presidential advisors from that exclusive club.

My goodness, with compelling credtials like that you'd think he'd be in the loop and in the know about such things as long term foreign policy and planning and know more about it than either you or I, wouldn't ya?

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So, yes you are correct Old Regular, he worked for Jimmy Carter (also).

 

I see that we not only have a peophet[ess] on this Forum but we also have a mind reader. Isn't that wonderful! </font>[/QUOTE]Not a mind reader, just one who pays attention to the facts of what is happening with those in and connected to Washington.

 

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Or an autocrat...

There ya have it Old Regular that's what your rooting for. (a corporate autocracy)

*Note* Mr. B was saying (wishing, planning for) this in 1997. </font>[/QUOTE]And your point?

 

Looks like he did a stint under Bush also.

I also noticed his connection with the CFR which has enjoyed a most prominent role in the last four administraions. The word "saturation" comes to mind and would probably be a better word to describe the actual numbers of presidential advisors from that exclusive club.

My goodness, with compelling credtials like that you'd think he'd be in the loop and in the know about such things as long term foreign policy and planning and know more about it than either you or I, wouldn't ya? </font>[/QUOTE]Whopee!

 

Some people's mainstream think tanks are other people's radicals or garbage!

 

Yes, I suppose that means alot to someone just engaging in marginalizations and ridicule. All without so much as a hint of their own sources showing of course.

 

Look PONCHO, this an opinion Forum. If I want SOURCES I can look them up myself, except I would be more discriminating! And your hat looks silly.

 

Look PONCHO, this an opinion Forum. If I want SOURCES I can look them up myself, except I would be more discriminating! And your hat looks silly. </font>[/QUOTE] This is a politics forum, if ya ain't got no facts to back it up then...pack it up!

 

Oh, I agree with you, Old Regular. However, this President is on the record stating that he is loyal to his friends.

That's bad?

Donald Rumsfeld should have been fired long ago, IMO, when troops were sent to battle without sufficient body armor and up-armored humvees.

Neither was deemed appropriate at the time. The armor on the Hummers was wrong headed. The Hummers were very overstressed with added armor, and greatly slowed down. Very few soldiers wanted them with armor

I don't have to wonder if the head of FEMA will keep his job. He will. Because he's a friend who was appointed to position, even though he has no prior experience in how to plan, execute, control and command in a major disaster - as has been readily apparent for the past five days.

too late to change anyone now without creating more delay

If you defend his incompetence, then I'll know for sure you don't subscribe to cable news channels, in spite of all your wealth.

I don't see the connection. Why would anyone want a liberal slant on their news?

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