Bush Secretly Lifted Some Limits on Spying in U.S.

Prove it.

Whether or not he did it is not in question. He has announced it to the world. He knows it's legal.

Since you don't think so, prove it.

 

Then you probably believed Richard Nixon when he was on the national media telling us, "I am not a crook."

 

Since you think it was legal, you prove that it was. Go ahead. I double dog dare ya.

 

I tried the double dog dare ya thing once Ken, remember what it got me? I put out a pile of evidence to no avail. People are gonna believe what the globalist media tell em no matter how much evidence you have to support your case, but hey go get em tiger! I'm with ya all the way.

 

"Since you think it was legal, you prove that it was. Go ahead. I double dog dare ya"-------------------------------------------------------------

Innocent until proven guilty Ken. The burden of proof is on the accuser. Remember, you want to defend the constitution.

 

Yeah, poncho, I reckon we know now who on this board would have supported Richard Nixon all the way until he boarded Marine One to finally leave the White House in 1974.

Dé por favor mi respeto al Cisco.

 

President Bush violated the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by bypassing the special court set up to authorize eavesdropping on suspected terrorists.

 

Next major terrorist attack and all of this bickering, debate, or whatever, including our Constitution is out the window. We will be under Martial Law where there is enough military.

Otherwise, it will be every man/woman for himself/herself, just like it was in NOLA.

Better load up on ammo and stock your food, water, and necessities.

Hopefully, for the GOP/Dems, we will have our national ID cards in imbedded computer chips in our right hand or forehead before that happens, so they will know where to "find" us if we are in need of assistance or dead, so they can find our bodies.

 

I'll willingly take the chance that we can be secure just as much without violating our God-given and constitutional rights as we can be by establishing a dictatorship to keep us "safe".

 

Since you think it was legal, you prove that it was. Go ahead. I double dog dare ya. </font>[/QUOTE]Our system doesn't work that way, Ken. With good reason. A negative is almost impossible to prove.

I will remind you ,however, the President has broad executive powers during wartime.

 

I dared you to prove a positive, carpro, not a negative.

 

Not true. You want me to prove he didn't break any laws. That's a negative.

The burden of proof is clearly on you.

As poncho said, "go get 'em ,Tiger." He'll probably even help if you ask, since he's "with you all the way".

 

"Yeah, poncho, I reckon we know now who on this board would have supported Richard Nixon all the way until he boarded Marine One to finally leave the White House in 1974."-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey old man KenH, I was only 6 or 7 at the time so you will have to exclude me from that one.

 

"I'll willingly take the chance that we can be secure just as much without violating our God-given and constitutional rights as we can be by establishing a dictatorship to keep us "safe". "--------------------------------------------------

This is where your argument falls apart Ken. Hardely the establishment of a dictatorship. If the press can reprot this, than we don't have a dictator. Let the press try to report on a secret in Cuba!???

 

Since you think it was legal, you prove that it was. Go ahead. I double dog dare ya. </font>[/QUOTE]Our system doesn't work that way, Ken. With good reason. A negative is almost impossible to prove.

I will remind you ,however, the President has broad executive powers during wartime. </font>[/QUOTE]All the more reason to keep us always involved in wars. Power...mmmmmm....power power power...drool drool drool.

 

"The courts only have the power they have today because the legislative and executive branch allow them to have that power"--------------------------------------------------------------------

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I can't remember the name of the case (can you help me Lady Eagle) but in one particular case the scotus itslef granted itself the right to declare a thing constituional or not. It gave itself the power to nulify a law. So the court has and is taking power not granted to it in the constitution.

 

Good point JGrubbs and the media has been controlled ever since.