California teacher brags about indoctrinating students toward antifa

[Wingman68]

This is a misleading and unfair characterization of what I said, and I think you know this. What is with this site? The degree of distortion and inappropriate debating behaviour is disturbing - at least in this forum.

I, of course, did not compare this guy to Jesus. I merely stated that Jesus could be characterized as a revolutionary and that, therefore, for someone to say he wanted to turn students into revolutionaries does not necessarily imply that he wants them to become violent.

You have clearly bent what I actually wrote completely out of shape and are cynically, and falsely of course, suggesting that I am equating this guy to Jesus.

Please respect what I actually write. And it is your distortion of what I am saying that is "appalling".

Go home then. It would be an improvement to your day, & certainly, my day. I don’t much care for out of country advice anyway. Cheers.

 

[Andre]

Go home then. It would be an improvement to your day, & certainly, my day. I don’t much care for out of country advice anyway. Cheers.

Nah, think I'll stay to try to keep a lid on the misinformation .

And, of course, it is noted that you do not deny that the other poster misrepresented me.

 

[xlsdraw]

Nah, think I'll stay to try to keep a lid on the misinformation .

And, of course, it is noted that you do not deny that the other poster misrepresented me.

You routinely attack the credibility of News that don't conform to your ideology.

The ruling Jews did the same thing about the Good News of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

To this day, the Jews believe the Jewish Ruler's lie.

I've seen more than enough of your posts to know not to trust you. And that will not change.

 

[Andre]

You routinely attack the credibility of News that don't conform to your ideology.

Not true - I attack news sources that promote lies.

I can prove this - name one news source that I have attacked without providing supporting evidence of some sort.

You will not answer this challenge since you know that you are mischaracterizing me (what else is new) when you say that my critiques are ideologically-driven.

 

[xlsdraw]

Not true - I attack news sources that promote lies.

I can prove this - name one news source that I have attacked without providing supporting evidence of some sort.

You will not answer this challenge since you know that you are mischaracterizing me (what else is new) when you say that my critiques are ideologically-driven.

Can an evil tree provide good fruit?

The answer is in the Bible.

 

[Andre]

Can an evil tree provide good fruit?

The answer is in the Bible.

Is this the way you evade a legitimate, well-formulated challenge to an unsubstantiated claim of yours?

You claim that my attack on sites are based on ideology. How you know this will be a mystery to astute reader - can you read my mind?

I am willing to appeal to the evidence - what I have actually posted in these threads. And you know that the actual record shows that my attacks are based on concerns about the credibility of the sources - this is not up for debate, my posts prove this is the case.

So what do you do? Withdraw your faulty accusation?

No, you pontificate.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Again, the "Scare the @@@@ out of them" phrase is often a perfectly appropriate phrase to use in casual conversation. As with "revolutionary", the use of this phrase is not particularly strong evidence that this guy is promoting anything inappropriate. My doctor might use this phrase to get me to exercise more - "Andre, my goal is to the scare the @@@@ out of you - you need to exercise more for your health". Is he threatening me or engaging in fearmongering? Of course not.

Your doctor analogy is about an adult speaking to an adult about issues with CLEAR meaning and CLEAR consequences.

This video was about an adult given authority over underage students and again, there is no teacher training that I know of in this country that pushes the "f" word and "scaring" students into learning anything.

What is wrong with the notion of opposing fascists?

Are the students in his class fascists? Do they believe in or even understand fascism? That is what he heavily implied. His words give evidence that if his students do not believe in Antifa that they are fascists. That is a wildly erroneous idea.

Just as erroneous as believing if your students didn't ride the "Trump Train" that they are perverse radicals.

Besides, if were all about broadening the minds of his students, then he would give extra credit for attending ANY protest from ANY point of view and turning in a written reflection. But no, he just wanted them to attend protest movements of his belief system. Not good.

Good day. I am done. It's moot anyway. He has been fired.

 

[just-want-peace]

Read my post, this thread, #11.
All I can say is - - - - VERIFIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[canadyjd]

This is a misleading and unfair characterization of what I said, and I think you know this. What is with this site? The degree of distortion and inappropriate debating behaviour is disturbing - at least in this forum.

I, of course, did not compare this guy to Jesus. I merely stated that Jesus could be characterized as a revolutionary and that, therefore, for someone to say he wanted to turn students into revolutionaries does not necessarily imply that he wants them to become violent.

You have clearly bent what I actually wrote completely out of shape and are cynically, and falsely of course, suggesting that I am equating this guy to Jesus.

Please respect what I actually write. And it is your distortion of what I am saying that is "appalling".

Amazing. You deny you are comparing the man to Jesus, and in the next sentence you repeat the comparison to Jesus.

After repeating the comparison of this man to Jesus, you then deny, once again, that you compared the man to Jesus.

Just for the record, when you say, “Jesus could be characterized as a revolutionary”, and then, “to say he wanted to turn students into revolutionaries does not necessarily imply that he wants them to become violent.” You are comparing this man to Jesus!!!

You are saying that just as Jesus was considered a “revolutionary” and taught disciples, this man might be doing the same. Jesus didn’t teach His disciples to be violent. This man might not be teaching his students to be violent. How can that not be a comparison to Jesus?

Thanks for the conversation. I’ll leave you to it.

pesce to you

 

[Scott Downey]

given you would say this……..nough said

He is one of the LEFT identifiers ideologically, I put him on ignore a while ago.

 

[Revmitchell]

He is one of the LEFT identifiers ideologically, I put him on ignore a while ago.

I did right after that post