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Call Me Bruddah Control
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That is different. The clash of freedoms in a society is a legitimate debate.
Do I have a right to emoyment? No. BUT do I have the right to work in a safe (by OSHA standards) environment by expecting my employer to implement safety measures deemed safe and effective? Yes.
canadyjd
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No, it’s not misinformation. I heard the question. I saw him respond just as I told you.
His comments about social media was during a press conference, not the town hall.
peace to you
canadyjd
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canadyjd
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It’s not about a “clash of freedoms”.
You said, “who cares”? I said the unvaxed have been slandered and that POTUS accused unvaxed of wanting to kill people. You said it was misinformation.
Percho found the clip and B:den says exactly what I claimed.
If the 30% of people that care (about 100 million people) vote in large numbers in 2022 and 2024, the Dems are doomed.
I bet they’ll care on Election Day.
peace to you
You saw him say that the unvaccinated want to kill the vaccinated with covid?
It is very interesting that there is no record of this even on anti-Biden sites. Most of the time (pretty much all of the time, except apparently this one, there are records of town halls).
The instance that I was referring to with Biden was a CNN Town Hall with Don Lemon on July 22, 2021, when he clarified his statement about Facebook killing people to mean 12 who were spreading misinformation were killing people. He said the same from the White House a day or so prior.
What he said in the CNN Town Hall with Anderson Cooper on 22 Oct 2021 is "I mean, so there’s a — the idea is that — look, the two things that concern me — one, are those who just tried to make this a political issue. “Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.” No, I mean, come on. “Freedom.”"
I am not doubting you heard Biden say the unvaccinated want to kill the vaccinated. I just doubt that is what he said.
The vaccinated have been slandered right and left. Some on this board have called those who decide to get vaccinated caving in to the government, liberals, "the problem", etc.
But saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'" is actually accurate. This is not slandering the unvaccinated. It is pretty much their agenda.
canadyjd
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it’s interesting you would claim there is no record and then quote the CNN town hall that I mentioned.
You left out Coopers question. Doesn’t Anderson Cooper directly ask about the unvaxed and their view it’s about freedom?
So B:den is directly responding to a question about the unvaxed and their view it’s a matter of freedom when he mocks them by saying, “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid…”
Intentionally leaving out the question about the unvaxed which B:den responded to and them claiming he never said it is misinformation.
peace to you
canadyjd
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So first you claim it’s misinformation, then you claim it can’t be found, then you claim I misunderstood and now you admit he did say it and instead of condemning it you join his slander by claiming he is right.
And you ask “who cares”.
thanks for the conversation
peace to you
He does that . . . gets all pedantic and self-contradictory when you get him by the boys.
And you aren't slandering here?
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You are mistaken.
You said Biden stated that the unvaccinated wanted to kill the vaccinated with their covid. But that is a misrepresentation of what was actually said.
I do not know what is most concerning, that you may reply knowing you are wrong or that you may actually believe what you posted accurately restates what Biden said.
Pertinent stuff starts around 11:39. Section titled "These boots are made for licking"
"They [fallen Churches and Christians] are actively engaged in enforcing the Enemies laws for him and then they have the effrontery to call it submission to God. Like the Jews of Jeremiah's day who cried out 'The temple of the Lord! The temple of the Lord! The temple of the Lord!', these people cry out 'Romans 13! Romans 13! Romans 13!'. That particular passage is one to which they claim overt allegiance, but I would make 3 observations:
1. Chanting something is not the same as studying it
2. If they were consistent they would teach wives to submit to husbands like they tell all of us to submit to the state, but they don't. They turn themselves inside out to avoid doing that. They would rather be dead in a ditch than do something like that. So this means that they aren't functioning with Biblical categories at all. When they talk about Romans 13 they are lying.
3. These exegetes who claim to understand Romans 13 this way are not to be trusted until they have been arrested, flogged and imprisoned by the authorities as many times as the author of Romans 13 was.
All of this means that Churches 10 years ago that were lax in disciplinary standards concerning 10 commandments stuff were susceptible to any passing infection...because they were suspectible to these infections a number of them caught the disease called "Caesar worship". That problem progressed quietly enough with a lot of Christians none-the-wiser and it did not become apparent until the last 2 years. And it became apparent then because Caesar started demanding a whole series of demented, contradictory and arbitrary acts of conformity.
So we didn't know what our real problem was until Caesar put on his boots. And as soon as he did that a whole host of our pastors started licking them"
"They [fallen Churches and Christians] are actively engaged in enforcing the Enemies laws for him and then they have the effrontery to call it submission to God. Like the Jews of Jeremiah's day who cried out 'The temple of the Lord! The temple of the Lord! The temple of the Lord!', these people cry out 'Romans 13! Romans 13! Romans 13!'. That particular passage is one to which they claim overt allegiance, but I would make 3 observations:
1. Chanting something is not the same as studying it
2. If they were consistent they would teach wives to submit to husbands like they tell all of us to submit to the state, but they don't. They turn themselves inside out to avoid doing that. They would rather be dead in a ditch than do something like that. So this means that they aren't functioning with Biblical categories at all. When they talk about Romans 13 they are lying.
3. These exegetes who claim to understand Romans 13 this way are not to be trusted until they have been arrested, flogged and imprisoned by the authorities as many times as the author of Romans 13 was.
All of this means that Churches 10 years ago that were lax in disciplinary standards concerning 10 commandments stuff were susceptible to any passing infection...because they were suspectible to these infections a number of them caught the disease called "Caesar worship". That problem progressed quietly enough with a lot of Christians none-the-wiser and it did not become apparent until the last 2 years. And it became apparent then because Caesar started demanding a whole series of demented, contradictory and arbitrary acts of conformity.
So we didn't know what our real problem was until Caesar put on his boots. And as soon as he did that a whole host of our pastors started licking them"
The claim that Biden said the unvacvinated want to kill the vaccinated with their covid is misinformation. The reason is this was never actually said.
But the Town Hall did occur. Biden dud make the statement regarding killing people with their "freedom".
It would have been fair for you to argue against what Biden actually said. But it is misinformation to claim he said something he did not.
No. Skander is making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation. Biden did make the statement. And he was correct, for a change.
canadyjd
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Actually, I said that B:den stated the unvaxed wanted to kill “people” with their covid, not the “vaxxed”.
Again, what was the question that B:den was answering? Didn’t Cooper ask about the unvaxed and their belief the issue was about freedom?
It is clear to anyone without an agenda, B:den was referring to the unvaxed when he mocked them by saying “let me kill people with my covid”
It is clear we are talking past each other and, quite frankly, I don’t have the energy to deal your word games tonight.
I’ll leave you to it.
peace to you
Yes, which is exactly what you're doing.
OK.
But the fact remains that Biden did not say the unvaccinated wanted to kill people with their covid.
How do you explain your misrepresentation of what he actually said?
Would it not have been better to simply report what was really said and then dispute his claim?
I'm not. I have not mentioned any person. The only slander has been falsely attributing to Biden something he did not say.
Just to clarify, your outlandish and lying accusation that the agenda of the unvaxxed is to kill you with 'their' covid, is not slander, because you don't mention a name?
(And China Joe did say it. Your obfuscating pedantry notwithstanding.)