Calvinism critique continued

[pinoybaptist]

Can anyone answer the questions?

Jerome gave an answer.
you don't like the answer ?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Can anyone answer the questions?

Can we? Yes however it's the wrong question that your posing! Right.

 

[Skandelon]

Can anyone answer the questions?

As anyone here knows, I'm no Calvinist, but to be fair I think they have answered the question. From what I've seen they have said that some Calvinists believe that God elects the children of the elect. Others have explained that there is no real difference between our view at this point because there is a good "chance" that even a child with "free will" would reject Christ considering the fact that "few are they who find the road to heaven." So, either way there is a "gamble."

Personally, as a father of four, if I'm being completely objective on this point, I'd rather it be totally up to God. I trust him a lot more than I do my kids. I pray for them daily and disciple them the best I know how, but both camps ultimately have to leave some things in the Father's hands.

 

[pinoybaptist]

As anyone here knows, I'm no Calvinist, but to be fair I think they have answered the question. From what I've seen they have said that some Calvinists believe that God elects the children of the elect. Others have explained that there is no real difference between our view at this point because there is a good "chance" that even a child with "free will" would reject Christ considering the fact that "few are they who find the road to heaven." So, either way there is a "gamble."

Personally, as a father of four, if I'm being completely objective on this point, I'd rather it be totally up to God. I trust him a lot more than I do my kids. I pray for them daily and disciple them the best I know how, but both camps ultimately have to leave some things in the Father's hands.

Thank you, sir.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Personally, as a father of four, if I'm being completely objective on this point, I'd rather it be totally up to God. I trust him a lot more than I do my kids. I pray for them daily and disciple them the best I know how, but both camps ultimately have to leave some things in the Father's hands.

Well there ya have it. Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right. Genesis 18:25

 

[pinoybaptist]

to be honest, I believe every Calvinist and DoG had had these qualms.
I don't know about others, but my consolation when I was a new convert to the Doctrine of Grace was Abraham who was told to sacrifice his son and went and was about to do so but the merciful and gracious God stopped him and spared Isaac.

My trust is in the living God, not in a doctrine, whether the one I hold to, nor those that my Calvinist brethren hold to, nor those that Arminians hold to.

I trust the living God to be a fair, impartial, merciful God and if for some reason I do not see any of my children there in heaven, then it is enough that He gave them to me here on earth, and the same thing if it were the reverse - them in heaven, and me in hell.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

to be honest, I believe every Calvinist and DoG had had these qualms.
I don't know about others, but my consolation when I was a new convert to the Doctrine of Grace was Abraham who was told to sacrifice his son and went and was about to do so but the merciful and gracious God stopped him and spared Isaac.

My trust is in the living God, not in a doctrine, whether the one I hold to, nor those that my Calvinist brethren hold to, nor those that Arminians hold to.

I trust the living God to be a fair, impartial, merciful God and if for some reason I do not see any of my children there in heaven, then it is enough that He gave them to me here on earth, and the same thing if it were the reverse - them in heaven, and me in hell.

Amen my brother!:thumbsup:

 

[convicted1]

Amen my brother!:thumbsup:

And I second that ((AMEN))) :thumbs::thumbs:

 

[convicted1]

As anyone here knows, I'm no Calvinist, but to be fair I think they have answered the question. From what I've seen they have said that some Calvinists believe that God elects the children of the elect. Others have explained that there is no real difference between our view at this point because there is a good "chance" that even a child with "free will" would reject Christ considering the fact that "few are they who find the road to heaven." So, either way there is a "gamble."

Personally, as a father of four, if I'm being completely objective on this point, I'd rather it be totally up to God. I trust him a lot more than I do my kids. I pray for them daily and disciple them the best I know how, but both camps ultimately have to leave some things in the Father's hands.

Very very put, and stated!! We need to always let Him do His job! He knows what to do, and how to do it.

i am I AM's!!

Willis

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Very very put, and stated!! We need to always let Him do His job! He knows what to do, and how to do it.

i am I AM's!!

Willis

Let God be God.... I will have to remember that :laugh::godisgood::thumbs:

 

[The Archangel]

As anyone here knows, I'm no Calvinist, but to be fair I think they have answered the question. From what I've seen they have said that some Calvinists believe that God elects the children of the elect. Others have explained that there is no real difference between our view at this point because there is a good "chance" that even a child with "free will" would reject Christ considering the fact that "few are they who find the road to heaven." So, either way there is a "gamble."

Personally, as a father of four, if I'm being completely objective on this point, I'd rather it be totally up to God. I trust him a lot more than I do my kids. I pray for them daily and disciple them the best I know how, but both camps ultimately have to leave some things in the Father's hands.

Good words.

The Archangel

 

[canadyjd]

Insight on why Calvinists are so touchy about this issue:....

Basic human nature, Jerome. Nothing is more personal than dragging someone's children into a debate over theology... or anything else.

peace to youraying:

 

[canadyjd]

As anyone here knows, I'm no Calvinist,.....Personally, as a father of four, if I'm being completely objective on this point, I'd rather it be totally up to God. I trust him a lot more than I do my kids. I pray for them daily and disciple them the best I know how, but both camps ultimately have to leave some things in the Father's hands.

Few have offered as many threads as you have opposing reformed doctrine, at least recently. Attempting to debate you has been challenging to say the least.

However, your comments in this thread have been appreciated. It's nice to find common ground with you. Thanks.

peace to youraying:

 

[Skandelon]

Few have offered as many threads as you have opposing reformed doctrine, at least recently. Attempting to debate you has been challenging to say the least.

However, your comments in this thread have been appreciated. It's nice to find common ground with you. Thanks.

peace to youraying:

I suspect in the whole scheme of things we have much more in common than not. This forum just happens to highlight one point of our disagreement, but you are right, finding common ground is nice.

 

[quantumfaith]

I suspect in the whole scheme of things we have much more in common than not. This forum just happens to highlight one point of our disagreement, but you are right, finding common ground is nice.

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