Calvinism Made Me Doubt My Salvation

[Brightfame52]

If you can't see that through the Atonement Christ has made our salvation possible based on Grace through faith, then I see myself failing to properly explain it.

So the Spirit taught you from the scripture that Christ death made peoples salvatiom possible based on grace through fsith ? Yes or No

 

[Charlie24]

So the Spirit taught you from the scripture that Christ death made peoples salvatiom possible based on grace through fsith ? Yes or No

There are Calvinists right here on BB that will tell you the Atonement made salvation possible!

They will say it was sufficient for all of mankind, but only the Elect are chosen for it by predestination.

Of course that's where I would disagree.

The traditional Calvinists disagree with you, BF.

 

[DaveXR650]

Likewise, its possible to make faith a meritorious work or inherent grace thats meritorious by believing its a condition in us for salvation b4 God will save us or apply salvation.

Well here's Charles Hodge in his Systematic Theology:
"6. Faith is the condition of justification. That is, so far as adults are concerned, God does not impute the righteousness of Christ to the sinner, until and unless, he (through grace) receives and rests on Christ alone for his salvation."

There is a way to make faith meritorious but believing it is a condition is not it. I think Hodge qualifies as an actual Calvinist.

 

[Ben1445]

So the Spirit taught you from the scripture that Christ death made peoples salvatiom possible based on grace through fsith ? Yes or No

Scripture is very clear that you don’t believe your way to salvation.
Were it an amount of belief, there are some pretty dedicated believers in all sorts of religions.
Jesus is the giver of the grace. The belief is merely allowing Him to do what He said He will do. Faith is not a work. It is the absence of work.

2 Samuel 22:26
With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful,
and with the upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright.

2 Samuel 22:27
With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure;
and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself unsavoury.

Psalms 18:25
With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful;
with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright;

Psalms 18:26
With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure;
and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.

 

[Brightfame52]

There are Calvinists right here on BB that will tell you the Atonement made salvation possible!

Thats your faith in Jesus, that He made salvation possible

 

[Brightfame52]

Well here's Charles Hodge in his Systematic Theology:

That doesnt help

 

[Brightfame52]

Scripture is very clear that you don’t believe your way to salvation.

Do you believe the atoning death of Christ made salvation possible ?

 

[Brightfame52]

The Spirit confirms the truth of Scripture when it's heard.

So is that truth of scripture the Spirit confirms to you is that Christs atoning death made salvation possible? Yes or no

 

[Ben1445]

Do you believe the atoning death of Christ made salvation possible ?

Do you think it is possible without the death of Christ?

 

[Brightfame52]

Do you think it is possible without the death of Christ?

Absolutely not. Now do you believe the death of Christ only made salvation possible?

 

[Silverhair]

So is that truth of scripture the Spirit confirms to you is that Christs atoning death made salvation possible? Yes or no

BF you keep asking the same question hoping for a different answer but it is the same every time.

The atoning death of Christ Jesus covered the sins of all of humanity,
1Jn 2:2 "He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world."
the risen Christ made salvation possible for all those that would freely trust in Him.
Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him." BSB

So just so we are clear BF. The atonement saved no one we are saved by the risen Christ just as Paul clearly said here.

For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 1Co 15:16-17 KJV

For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised.
And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
1Co 15:16-17 BSB

 

[Ben1445]

Absolutely not. Now do you believe the death of Christ only made salvation possible?

You make a big deal of semantics.

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

But Jesus definitely answered for sin. All sin. There is no sin that His blood cannot cover except the rejection of the work of the Holy Spirit.

But don’t be upset with me. You believe that I was ordained to believe this way.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, then that shows you to be elect. Paul wrote to the Christians at Ephesus:

3 Blessed be]the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, (Ephesians 1)

Incidentally, I think it would have bee more accurate to say that 2 Calvinists, not Calvinism, that made you doubt.

Bravo

 

[Brightfame52]

you keep asking the same question hoping for a different answer but it is the same every time.

So is it yes or no ? Is your faith in Christ is that He made your salvation possible ?

 

[Brightfame52]

You make a big deal of semantics.

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

But Jesus definitely answered for sin. All sin. There is no sin that His blood cannot cover except the rejection of the work of the Holy Spirit.

But don’t be upset with me. You believe that I was ordained to believe this way.

Now do you believe the death of Christ only made salvation possible?

 

[Brightfame52]

So just so we are clear BF. The atonement saved no one

When you pray to Jesus do you remind Him that His atoning death saved no one ?

 

[Ben1445]

Now do you believe the death of Christ only made salvation possible?

By your definition, probably.
I am not a hyper determinist like you are.

 

[Silverhair]

So is it yes or no ? Is your faith in Christ is that He made your salvation possible ?

Try reading post # 151 again and this time pay attention to the words.

The answer is there if you actually read BF.

 

[Silverhair]

When you pray to Jesus do you remind Him that His atoning death saved no one ?

Well since He knows that then I do not have to tell Him.

But I do thank the risen Christ for making salvation possible by the grace of God for those that will freely trust in Him.

BF even you should be able to understand these words

For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised.
And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
1Co 15:16-17 BSB

The fact that you will not accept the biblical truth just shows how committed you are to the religious theory you hold.

 

[Brightfame52]

By your definition, probably.

Thats not yes or no Can you please answer yes or no, no ambiguity please.