I will give you that proof. Be patient. It does not mean "lifeless."
So what are you more interested in: the process or the result. Are we going to be speaking how the brain slowly loses its capacity to function while at the same time the heart loses its power to function. If you want to talk about the "definition" of death specifically, then you are in for a long drawn out biological discussion. I am not interested in the shutting down of the bodily functions of a human being. What does it mean when the Bible says: "The wages of sin is death"? It is not speaking of the shutting down of the body until it becomes lifeless--that process. It is talking about the end result. The wages of sin is death--separation from God for all eternity. But the gift of God is eternal life--life with God for all eternity. There also is the end result of accepting God's gift.
adam died BOTH ohysically and spiritually when he chose to disobey God, sinned, and become fallen...
ALL of us now born into His image, and suffer same state/condition that he found himself in before God!
I believe in sola scriptura; you believe in sola dictionaria. That is fine. I will use the Bible as my authority; you can use the English dictionary as yours. As long as we have this understanding we are ok.
We beive in the Bible same way as you would, EXCEPT do NOT believe that it means cannot use any other sources to study and learn from then it, in this case English dictionaries!
Would you deny using one IF a person did know the english language that well?
Not so. Remember, I get my definition from the Bible, not English dictionaries.
No thanks, I will stick to what the Bible teaches. It is a much better teacher then the garbled football jargon you just tried to impart. Remember, my authority is the Word of God, the Bible.
Again, we believe that it is final inspired/revealed authority, but that God does expect us to study it diligently, in ths case with study tools such Greek/Hebrew texts and tools!
I am acquainted with the Greek. The Greek isn't the problem. When you ignore context and the teaching of the Word itself then you find yourself in trouble.
problem in this regard is that BOTH the context and the Greek/hebrew words used do NOT ascribe meaning to "death" as you are using them here!
It is; but a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
Thus even if I give you a rational and convincing explanation you no doubt won't accept it.
First,
Physical Separation
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (James 2:26)
--James defines actual physical death as separation of the spirit from the body. That is all that death is: separation of the spirit from the body.
Death, in the Bible, is always separation.
Second,
Spiritual Separation
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; (Ephesians 2:1)
The KJV certainly added a lot to this verse. Did you notice how much of the verse was italicized?
Young's says:
Also you--being dead in the trespasses and the sins, (Ephesians 2:1)
(I'll save that for another discussion)
--The point is that the Ephesians were separated from God spiritually. They were not lifeless corpses or even lifeless spirits. They were separated from God because of sin. Sin had separated them from God, as all sin does. That is why Christ had to die for sin. They needed to be reconciled to God. They were separated from God and needed to be reconciled to God. Without that reconciliation there could be no life. That reconciliation would come through the Word of God and the Spirit of God, the two agencies by which a person is born again.
Sinners are born in a state/condition automatically estarnged from God, due to our sin sate, being found in Adam!
THAT is the cause of our seperation from God, you keep referring to the end result!
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. (Isaiah 59:2)
Third,
Eternal Separation
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
--I have already explained this verse. Notice that it is a contrast between eternal life and thus eternal death. God's gift is eternal life, contrasted with the wages of sin--eternal death. What is eternal death: separation from God for all eternity.
Death is always separation in the Bible.
WHAT though is the cause of that?
Not my sins commited against God, but that I am found by Him in Adam, dead in sin nature, and spiritually dead, even though physically alive!
Fourth.
The Second Death
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15)
Here is the scene of the Great White Throne Judgment: The Second Death. It is God's final judgment for all unsaved. Even death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire. The final sentence, the final result, will be
separation from God for all eternity.
Death is separation in the Bible, all the time.
There is the evidence. Do with it as you will.
