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Calvinists Do Not Hold To Open Theism

Van

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ALL Calvinists would see Open Theism as a heretical view regarding the attribute of God and His Omniscience
Note the mindless posts, they believe God is not the author sin, meaning God did not predestine our sin, but still have the unmitigated gall, the unabashed temerity to claim that is not open theism. I kid you not.
 

JesusFan

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Note the mindless posts, they believe God is not the author sin, meaning God did not predestine our sin, but still have the unmitigated gall, the unabashed temerity to claim that is not open theism. I kid you not.
Van, what is Open Theism?
 

Van

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Van, what is Open Theism?
First, this poster claims I am an open theist, but now has no idea what open theism is! I kid you not.
Exhaustive determinism is closed theism, everything is predestined by God, nothing happens by chance, God causes directly or indirectly everything that occurs (whatsoever comes to pass) including our choice to sin. Those that say God does not predestine our sin, making us responsible for our sin, oppose closed theism, and are thus open theists.
 

JesusFan

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No , as you are ONLY describing Hyper calvinist here, as majority of us
First, this poster claims I am an open theist, but now has no idea what open theism is! I kid you not.
Exhaustive determinism is closed theism, everything is predestined by God, nothing happens by chance, God causes directly or indirectly everything that occurs (whatsoever comes to pass) including our choice to sin. Those that say God does not predestine our sin, making us responsible for our sin, oppose closed theism, and are thus open theists.
No real Calvinist holds to Open Theism, and the view that you see us holding here only is that of the Hyper Calvinists
 

Van

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No , as you are ONLY describing Hyper calvinist here, as majority of us

No real Calvinist holds to Open Theism, and the view that you see us holding here only is that of the Hyper Calvinists
Real Calvinists are not only Hyper Calvinists or 5 point Calvinists, or 4 point Calvinists, they include all three.

And many "real Calvinists" claim they are open theists because they claim God is not the author of sin.
 

JesusFan

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No , as you are ONLY describing Hyper calvinist here, as majority of us
First, this poster claims I am an open theist, but now has no idea what open theism is! I kid you not.
Exhaustive determinism is closed theism, everything is predestined by God, nothing happens by chance, God causes directly or indirectly everything that occurs (whatsoever comes to pass) including our choice to sin. Those that say God does not predestine our sin, making us responsible for our sin, oppose closed theism, and are thus open theists.
No real Calvinist holds to Open Theism, and the view that you see us holding here only is that of the Hyper Calvinists
Real Calvinists are not only Hyper Calvinists or 5 point Calvinists, or 4 point Calvinists, they include all three.

And many "real Calvinists" claim they are open theists because they claim God is not the author of sin.
God being open theistic has NOTHING to do with if He authored sin or not van, as since God already knew that the Fall would happen, already determined the Cross of Christ as remedy, God is not Open Theistic in His knowing
 
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