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Can anyone be saved?

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tyndale1946

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The American Dream said:
Whosoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Anyone not called will have no interest in calling on the name of the Lord.
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Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

God does the calling on the heart he has changed.

Jeremiah 31:31 Behold the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was a husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; after those days saith the Lord, I will put my laws in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and I will be their God and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord: for they shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest of them: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
 
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robustheologian

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steaver said:
We don't want to give text out of context. You could answer by reading full passages of scripture in which you believe answers the question properly.

Are we saying the Apostles writings are not sufficient to answer the question? They need uninspired men's added help?
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Who are these "uninspired man"?
 
steaver

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tyndale1946 said:
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

God does the calling on the heart he has changed.

Jeremiah 31:31 Behold the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was a husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; after those days saith the Lord, I will put my laws in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and I will be their God and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord: for they shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest of them: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
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There we go again. Do not add to the word of the LORD.
 
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How blessed is the one whom You choose and bring near to You
To dwell in Your courts.
We will be satisfied with the goodness of Your house,
Your holy temple. Ps 65:4

that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord,
and all the Gentiles who are called by my name,
says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.’
Acts 15:17-18

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Rom 8:28-30

though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls
Rom 9:11

For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you, 5 because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake
1 Thess1:4-5

and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
Rev 13:8
 
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blessedwife318 said:
How blessed is the one whom You choose and bring near to You
To dwell in Your courts.
We will be satisfied with the goodness of Your house,
Your holy temple. Ps 65:4

that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord,
and all the Gentiles who are called by my name,
says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.’
Acts 15:17-18

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Rom 8:28-30

though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls
Rom 9:11

For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you, 5 because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake
1 Thess1:4-5

and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
Rev 13:8
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Very good!!!! :thumbsup: Isn't it nice to just hear the word of the Lord and not get into all this man centered commentary?
 
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steaver said:
Very good!!!! :thumbsup: Isn't it nice to just hear the word of the Lord and not get into all this man centered commentary?
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So I guess the question is are you going to believe what the Lord has said and not man centered commentary?
 
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steaver said:
Very good!!!! :thumbsup: Isn't it nice to just hear the word of the Lord and not get into all this man centered commentary?
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Acts 8:25-35 25 So, when they had solemnly testified and spoken the word of the Lord, they started back to Jerusalem, and were preaching the gospel to many villages of the Samaritans. 26 But an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip saying, “Get up and go south to the road that descends from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is a desert road.) 27 So he got up and went; and there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of all her treasure; and he had come to Jerusalem to worship, 28 and he was returning and sitting in his chariot, and was reading the prophet Isaiah. 29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, “Go up and join this chariot.” 30 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.32 Now the passage of Scripture which he was reading was this:
“HE WAS LED AS A SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER;
AND AS A LAMB BEFORE ITS SHEARER IS SILENT,
SO HE DOES NOT OPEN HIS MOUTH.
“IN HUMILIATION HIS JUDGMENT WAS TAKEN AWAY;
33 WHO WILL RELATE HIS GENERATION?
FOR HIS LIFE IS REMOVED FROM THE EARTH.”
34 The eunuch answered Philip and said, “Please tell me, of whom does the prophet say this? Of himself or of someone else?” 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture he preached Jesus to him.


New American Standard Bible: 1995 update. (1995). (Ac 8:25–35). LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
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(emphasis mine)
 
steaver

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Reformed said:
(emphasis mine)
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Yes, that was an Apostle opening up the OT scriptures which spoke of Jesus Christ. We have 27 books of Holy Spirit inspired commentary concerning Jesus Christ OT and NT and Christian living. Do we need more??? Wasn't the Apostles writings thorough enough???
 
Reformed

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steaver said:
Yes, that was an Apostle opening up the OT scriptures which spoke of Jesus Christ. We have 27 books of Holy Spirit inspired commentary concerning Jesus Christ OT and NT and Christian living. Do we need more??? Wasn't the Apostles writings thorough enough???
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So, let me make sure I understand you. If I use your reasoning than my next sermon should be nothing more than just reading the text. That is it. Just read it because after all, "Wasn't the Apostles writing thorough enough???"?
 
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tyndale1946

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Matthew 19: 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
 
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So, let me make sure I understand you. If I use your reasoning than my next sermon should be nothing more than just reading the text. That is it. Just read it because after all, "Wasn't the Apostles writing thorough enough???"?
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Yeah, I think ole steaver likes for the preacher to read a few verses and then close up shop. That way he can get in line for the chicken n dumplings....
 
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tyndale1946

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convicted1 said:
Yeah, I think ole steaver likes for the preacher to read a few verses and then close up shop. That way he can get in line for the chicken n dumplings....
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Yeah the brethren are checking their watches. Its lunch time right?:smilewinkgrin:
 
steaver

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Reformed said:
So, let me make sure I understand you. If I use your reasoning than my next sermon should be nothing more than just reading the text. That is it. Just read it because after all, "Wasn't the Apostles writing thorough enough???"?
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Yes, the Apostle's writings are sufficient. I'm sure you would agree. No, your sermon should be more than reading the text. You should be making life applications for Christian living. What you should not be doing, and I'm pretty sure you are not, is going beyond what is written. Like restating the scripture to give it your personal conviction bent. We see that often here on the BB.
 
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