Can anyone refer me to some good preaching?

Amen! I don't believe in women preachers either!

 

What you talkin bout Willis, no Rose of Sharon or Lilly of the Valley sermon's?

 

Well, it rather depends on what you mean by "hard preaching." In some of our IFB circles, "hard preaching" has become mean preaching.
Some so-called hard preachers try to build a reputation for “hard preaching” by being hateful, nasty and mean. They use belligerent, crude language in the pulpit that we would spank our kids for using. They seemingly think that the meaner they can be, the greater preacher they are. This is ignorant, foolish slobbering, not “hard preaching” in the sense it originated within Southern IFB circles.

When I was a boy growing up in the South, I was privileged to hear some great preaching. Men of God stood in the pulpit and denounced sin as sin from the Word of God. They preached the Word and did not resort to gimmicks and psychological manipulation. They declared “thus saith the Lord” and expounded upon it. They painted sin black and named sin. It was not the frivolous and petty sins of today—insensitivity, lack of trust, fear, etc. It was the sordid wickedness of the human heart with it wretched lusts and depravity. Although they preached strongly against sin, they balanced their preaching with a sweet and wonderful message of salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, a blessed contented life in communion and fellowship with Him, and a glorious hope of Heaven worshipping and basking in our Lord’s presence.

Although I cannot recommend to you, or anyone else, the mean “hard preaching” of many imitators, who entirely miss the mark, but I can recommend many greats of bygone years. (BTW, this is not to imply that there is no good "hard preaching" today.) Some of their sermons can be found at http://www.sermonindex.net/ if you would like to link to it. Also, many of the old-timers such as Harold B. Sightler, Oliver B. Greene, etc. can still be heard on Fundamental Broadcasting Network.

 

Grasshopper's definitions:

Hardpreaching: Lots of screaming, spitting and hitting the pulpit with your fist. Shallow preaching usually involving length of hair, mini skirts and rock music. Think Jack Hyles.

Daisypreaching: Not much theater, heavy on doctrine and theology and usually verse by verse perhaps on the intellectual side. Think RC Sproul.

Perhaps Fred Phelps is a candidate for hardpreaching.com.

 

I was going to recomend me until the "KJV only" part.

Tad

 

I just figured since sanderson is a TV smasher he might want sermons from fellow tv smashers.:smilewinkgrin:

 

Don't worry if you don't get a response from Pastor Steve to your questions. He's a drive-by poster. Drops in, fires off a shot and takes off, rarely to ever return.

 

RE:hard preaching

There is no Scriptural mandate for inclusivism.[/quote]

Amen Brother:thumbsup: . It is called personal liberty. When others want us to accept their view on things and we refuse we are unmerciful and denying their liberty in Christ. When we ask for the same response from them we are being unreasonable and they must be right or there is something wrong with us. Face it if you are an IFB you are politely ostracized and grilled and challenged in debate as if you were Satan himself. :smilewinkgrin:

Why cannot hard preaching simply be preaching that refuses to surrender to political correctness, is straight forward in its presentation and leaves no room to question what the preacher said? We are mandated to speak the truth in love, show compassion, but also reprove, rebuke and exhort with all long suffering. Have we forgotten the sons of thunder, I wonder if their preaching was "hard" preaching. Surely they considered their audience (tongue in cheek) and were subtle in their presentations.

Luke 9:49-50 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

I have gotten a lot out of this BB but threads like this irritate me because people who are not IFB want to stipulate what an IFB should or should not do. Each of us has beliefs and practices that are not in complete agreement with others on this board as long as they are not unscriptural why attack them?

Preaching style is not theology it is preference.

 

Fred Phelps seems right up the OPs alley...

Click here for the link....

gotta keep these IFBs together, or they will spread like weeds.

 

Hey Tim, sure appreciate the comment about the weeds.......my stepdad's pastor said as much as the same thing this week in his homily. He preaches his stuff at the local roman church. Isn't it interesting who we align ourselves with when we speak. One more thing, his church, after they said that in years past......they burned the weeds.

Happy hunting.

Thanks Bartimaeus

 

Sorry, don't see that. I am IFB through and through.

I wonder why posters of other inclinations never treat me this way? I find other posters polite, respectable, and decent.

My biggest problem seems to come from other sorts of IFBs.

 

REolitely ostracized

It might have something to do with the moniker at the end of your C4K. :smilewinkgrin:

 

Part of the ''problem'' comes from the old IFB mentality of fighting with everyone who does not agree with them. But there are many of us who have come to see that this division and quarreling was not of God but has been very devisive to the point where, we, as an IFB movement have little or no respect among other groups of Baptists.

There was nothing spiritual about the fist fight in Fort Worth that supposedly brought about the BBF and there has been nothing spiritual (IMO) about the split between BBFI and the GIBF it has turned brother against brother how can can we say one side is for God and the other side is not.

That some of the IFB standards are, shall we say extreme and others are more lax should not be the basis for controversy. Each is an independent, local church body and their particular standards are theirs.

You as a missonary are in a precarious position because you are going to be constantly challenged as to your 'camp' which really asks are you my friend or theirs which is foolishness in the extreme.

One day perhaps we will live down the phrase "fighting independents" as if it were a moniker of prestige.

thjplgvp

 

I can promise you that is no protection .

Been here a while now - all of my supporters know where I stand and that I repudiated "camps" a long time ago.

 

Points taken :thumbsup:

I don't ever mean to be critical or harsh just truthful, observant and discerning. I do know that only using the written word, intent can be terribly hidden at times.

 

I don't think I made myself clear..... I should have said "gotta keep these type of Ifbs together"

It is this type of IFBs that are giving the good ones a bad name.
Just compare the 2 preachers, I can imagine either one filling the other's pulpit. I personally don't want this hate to spread.

Sorry if what I said offended... That was not my intention, sometimes there is a disconnect from my brain to my fingersraying:

 

Oh! Thank heavens I'm not the only one!

 

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I am not a preacher or even a deacon, but I am a true follower of Jesus and this brickering and fighting back and forth has just about got to me. I thought this would be a great place to connect and learn some more about the Bible. I can see it is NOT. In every section of this board, all you see is brickering of some type. I just wanted to really enjoy good christian people and learn as much as possible, but I can see this is not the place. I wish someone could show me different.

 

Brother Talmadge,
I'm sorry if our back and forth - I'm not sure it's bickering - has caused you hurt. But many here use this as a place to talk over issues. We comment on statements that mean something to us and sometimes it goes too far.

BUT, for many people who work in the church either full time or part time, whether paid or not, feel this is a safe place to blow off some steam. There is also the problem of words when they are printed come across with far more antagonism than would be meant if we were sitting at Starbucks over a mocha frappacino.

 

Well it looks like the Sanderson troll got 4 pages out of the board. He is looking for sermons that would scare kids to death, and demonstrate how to smash the latest electronic demonized piece of equipment---I guess that is true for everything except his computer

Bro Tony
(Don't feed the trolls---uh oh I think I just did:tongue3: )