Can God fail?

[psalms109:31]

arminian

1 Corinthians 1:18
[ Christ the Wisdom and Power of God ] For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

The problem is those who do not believe the way they do, they assume they are arminian. I am not an arminian, i will never teach a work based salvation.

The scripture teaches that our salvation is faith in God through Jesus and His word and trust in Jesus based salvation.

Isaiah 49:23
Kings will be your foster fathers, and their queens your nursing mothers. They will bow down before you with their faces to the ground; they will lick the dust at your feet. Then you will know that I am the LORD; those who hope in me will not be disappointed."

Psalm 22:5
They cried to you and were saved; in you they trusted and were not disappointed.

Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

 

[skypair]

Basically, Calvinists have caught themselves in the basic "law of noncontradiction" which says that contradictory truths cannot both be true at the same time in that same way.

Demonstration: You say God can't fail. We say He can. What's the problem? YOU mean His will can't fail at any time in any way. WE say His will on the individual level/way can fail since He has ceded that will to us but in the scheme/timing of all things, His will never fails.

Furthermore, the Bible provides numerous instances of God's will failing in the near term and individually. It does NOT make the assertion that God's will always is done -- in fact, He commands us to pray that His "will be done on earth as it is in heaven!!" So it is clear that His will is NOT done on earth always but is always done in heaven!!

skypair

 

[Jarthur001]

B" So it is clear that His will is NOT done on earth always but is always done in heaven!!

skypair

I disagree. God is in full control of all things. It is you that does not understand His will.

I have been a premillennialism since a young age. If anything you have done more to want me to rethink my doctrine as a premillennialism, with your post. I know this is not your intent, but it shows where such obscure thinking will take you.

Where as if we were look at the Bible....

The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone that is born of the Spirit

The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, even the wicked for the day of evil

If anything you have shown you do not know the will of God.

The Bible shows Christ in full control.

18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

King? yes....King

And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayes

God the Father speaking to God the Son...

Hbr 1:8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.


Hbr 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, [even] thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


Hbr 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

30Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

32This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

35Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

20Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

21Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

22And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

23Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all

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5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince(leader) of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

 

[npetreley]

Basically, Calvinists have caught themselves in the basic "law of noncontradiction" which says that contradictory truths cannot both be true at the same time in that same way.

Demonstration: You say God can't fail. We say He can. What's the problem? YOU mean His will can't fail at any time in any way. WE say His will on the individual level/way can fail since He has ceded that will to us but in the scheme/timing of all things, His will never fails.

Furthermore, the Bible provides numerous instances of God's will failing in the near term and individually. It does NOT make the assertion that God's will always is done -- in fact, He commands us to pray that His "will be done on earth as it is in heaven!!" So it is clear that His will is NOT done on earth always but is always done in heaven!!

skypair

After which, sp went on to prove that black is white.

 

[charles_creech78]

My opinion is no God can not fail. But this OP made me think of a question I was asked once.
" Is God able to make a rock that would be too heavy for Him to lift?"

I would like to see that rock. There are alot of big rocks now that he has but out there.