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Can Obama Filibuster the World in Case of War?

alatide

New Member
Your telling lies is nothing unusual. But to indicate that our country and its leaders planned and carry out attacks against its own people...

I'll be as nice as I can: If you sincerely believe this, then I find you to be monumentally ignorant at the least...and disgustingly despicable at the worst. Shame on you.

One who would assert that our leaders intentionally bombed our own people and murdered thousands...that person has no love for their country, and should do the USA a favor and get out.

Can you or anyone else prove Bush's conspiracy theory? Just answer me one thing. Why isn't bin aden charged with any crime relating to 9/11? Show some credibility by answering that simple question.
 

webdog

Active Member
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I love my country. I hate the traitors that did this. If you refuse to investigate proof of this treason because of your Republican affiliation then you are the traitor.

If you have the evidence to refute the truth go to this web site":

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871#docid=8797525979024486145

They're offering $1,000 if you can refute any fact presented there. Put up or shut up.
So besides a proven liar...you are an admitted murderer as well!
 

rbell

Active Member
Thanks, alatide, for a glimpse into your heart.

I pity you. You must be one miserable individual.
 

alatide

New Member
That's right...Clinton signed that order.

Clinton did order a rocket attack on Iraq but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the invasion. Why isn't bin Laden charged by the FBI with any 9/11 crime?
 
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KenH

Well-Known Member
Never heard of them. Who are you referring to?

Liberals and the warfare state

Posted by Norman Singleton on February 26, 2007

What US President said ” “An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.”

W? Bush the first? No. Need a hint? Okay, this President also backed dictatorial regimes in El Salvador, Indonesia, and Iran. Reagan? Nope, the quote above comes from Jimmy Carter’s 1980 State of the Union address.

Robert Jensen reminds us of this and other instances of Democratic support for the warfare state, including Democratic support for Clinton’s bombing of Iraq. I clearly remember Democrats questioning the patriotism of Republicans who wanted to impeach Clinton while he was “defending America” by bombing Iraq.

This piece is much-reading for anyone who believes the that Democrats’ opposition to Iraq represents anything more than partisan opposition to Republican wars. Just like all-to-many conservative Republicans are only reliable opponents of the welfare state when Democrats control the White House, to many liberal Democrats are only reliable opponents of the warfare state when a Republican resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Also worth reading is Jeffery St. Clair on how Bill Clinton paved the way for Bush. St. Clair points out that when it comes to war, civil liberties, and using state power to favor powerful corporate interests, there is not even a dime’s worth of difference between Clintonian neoliberalism and Bushian neoconservatism.

- www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/012395.html

"The arrogance of the neoliberalism that Obama embodies is quite the opposite: it is the belief that it is moral to use the violence, force, and coercion of government to reshape society, or the world, to your vision."

- http://original.antiwar.com/adam-ko...s-candor-refreshing-his-policies-not-so-much/
 

alatide

New Member
So besides a proven liar...you are an admitted murderer as well!

So, where does this charge come from? You are so irrational I can't understand your perverted "logic." Now tell me why bin Laden wasn't charged with anything related to 9/11 by the FBI.
 

Nonsequitur

New Member
So, where does this charge come from? You are so irrational I can't understand your perverted "logic." Now tell me why bin Laden wasn't charged with anything related to 9/11 by the FBI.

Ooh, ooh ooh....Miss Alatide?,....Please call on me,ooh, ooh, can't you see my hand up?
Thank you.
The answer to your question, "Now tell me why bin Laden wasn't charged with anything related to 9/11 by the FBI."(sic)
Why charge someone when they are never going to see the inside of a jail, much less a court-room?
 

webdog

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So, where does this charge come from? You are so irrational I can't understand your perverted "logic." Now tell me why bin Laden wasn't charged with anything related to 9/11 by the FBI.
The charge of what? I showed you how you are a murderer...what else would you like? It is not my "logic", btw...it was Christ that called you a murderer...take it up with Him.
 

Robert Snow

New Member
So besides a proven liar...you are an admitted murderer as well!

If this is your qualifications for being a murderer, you along with most of your right-wing buddies here are guilty of murder on a huge scale!

Maybe you should work on that beam in your eye before casting judgment on others.
 

Spear

New Member
I'm coming back to the original purpose of the thread, and will reply in such a context.

The only thing that annoyed me, is that none should speak in the name of Christ to someone else. It's my opinion.

So Paul, there we go ;)

I have to admit, that i had to check in the dictionary to know what " Filibuster " means :) ... " Obstruction parlementaire " in french :D ...

From here, your president is popular, he's young, and to be honest, many here wondered if USA would do it, and elect a black president, and yes, you did it, which puts an end to many " wonder if " about USA & colour questions.

Our president is very enthusiastic about USA, and seems to admire many things, often remembers officially the friendship between the nations, with the right to think differently. I agree with him on that. The matter here, is that some don't share that feeling.

I'm optimistic, the crisis is, i hope, over, with better finances, we'll be back on the rails of growth.

So, i hope :)
 

webdog

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If this is your qualifications for being a murderer, you along with most of your right-wing buddies here are guilty of murder on a huge scale!

Maybe you should work on that beam in your eye before casting judgment on others.
It's not my qualifications, it's Jesus'...have you never seen them before?

You have falsely accused me, btw. I have never stated I hate any liberal including the president and the terrorist responsible for 9/11. I'll be waiting for the apology (but won't hold my breath).
 

rbell

Active Member
The answer to your question, "Now tell me why bin Laden wasn't charged with anything related to 9/11 by the FBI."(sic)
Why charge someone when they are never going to see the inside of a jail, much less a court-room?

That's right.

We don't try people in a courtroom for acts of war.

The FBI didn't charge the Japanese emporer with a crime for Pearl Harbor.



Alatide...I bet you hate it when someone points out the stupidity of your arguments, don't you?
 

Spear

New Member
Please, i kindly ask you all to remember we're a community, brothers and sisters, some wondering about this or that, debating, ... we can all disagree, even strongly, without being rude no ?

God bless you all.

:1_grouphug:

Do sometimes moderators intervene to temper ?
 
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