Can Preterists Even BEGIN To Make Their Case?

The etymology from the link you supplied is interesting.

Did I read correctly that the entomology shows the word was used as both race and station as the class of a soldier in 25 BC?

 

Matthew Poole sums this up nicely

5. The Ninevites, though upon the preaching of Jonah they made a show of repentance, yet returning to their former sins were soon after destroyed; so were the Jews within forty years after Christ’s ascension.

That was a "sign to their own desire" the parallel is above and says except the sign of Jonah. They seen all the signs they needed to. The ressurection being the greatest and still did not believe so

Matthew 28:38 look your house is left to you desolate. When did this happen again? Ad 70 that same Generation.


If you translate genea race here then your saying the Jewish race will never get a sign?

The next verse Matthew 9:1 And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.

So Matthew 8:38 and Matthew 9:1 are talking about two different events 2000 plus years apart?

I still have not seen clear evidence to genea referring to race.

 

Ok, you are without excuse.

Here it is again.

The point being that YOU desire an EXCLUSIVE definition that will fit your scheme.

The word ALSO includes OTHER just as valid definitions so you cannot claim exclusionary use.

The word can and does apply to race, family stock...

It is NOT exclusive to a certain set of years

Your view fails by extorting the facts of Scripture into some mold that denies the vast prophetic statements. In particular the last 3 chapters of Revelation.

The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon
Strong's Number: 1074 Browse Lexicon
Original Word Word Origin
genea from (a presumed derivative of) (1085)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Genea 1:662,114
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
ghen-eh-ah' Noun Feminine
Definition

1. fathered, birth, nativity
2. that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
   1. the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
   2. metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
      1. esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time
4. an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 - 33 years

Taken from: Genea - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard

 

Another definition:
Genea - Wikipedia

Again another:
Dictionary:
γενεά, -ᾶς, ἡ
Greek transliteration:
genea
Simplified transliteration:
genea
Numbers
Strong's number:
1074
GK Number:
1155
Statistics
Frequency in New Testament:
43
Morphology of Biblical Greek Tag:
n-1a
Gloss:
generation, one's own kind or race, descendant; fig., age, period of time (as in to all generations)
Definition:
pr. birth; hence, progeny; a generation of mankind, Mt. 11:16; 23:36, et al.; a generation, a step in a genealogy, Mt. 1:17; a generation, an interval of time, an age; in NT course of life, in respect of its events, interests, or character, Lk. 16:8; Acts 13:36
Taken from:γενεά | billmounce.com

 

And here we are again!

I am asking for one verse that it clearly can not mean the current generation and must be used as race. I am not arguing the lexicon meaning. I am arguing the fact that in the gospel it's used as a literal present generation.

I was carrying around a file to sharpen the knife.

Are you going to argue with me that because file can mean

Folder or box for holding loose papers that are typically arranged in a particular order for easy reference.

That I am going to sharpen a knife with a folder?

I'm not asking the definition. I'm asking where it is used as race and not the current generation.

 

Alright so change generation to race and give me the verse with "race" in it's place besides Matthew 24.

 

No? Then how many days did it take God to create the universe and everything in it, do you take them as literal days? And why if he does not operate on them.

 

The link says

Genea (derived from the Greek word γενεά, meaning "descent") is a genus of truffle-like fungi in the family Pyronemataceae. There are about 32 species in the genus that occur in North America and Europe.[2] The genus was circumscribed by Italian mycologist Carlo Vittadini in 1831.[3]

So now it's fungus that will not pass until all them things happen?
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That's a long article - referring to genus, not genea.
John doesn't allow his students to quote Wiki - so we too will reject your contribution.

 

You seem to have learnt the principles of reasoning from Lewis Carroll - Rev. Charles Dodgson.

John insists with his students that they study the context when considering the meaning. That of course is necessary as we engage in a serious theological discussion.

Your own inferences of the consequences of our belief that generally the translators are correct in translating genea as generation represent a reducto ad absurdum. But I will consider them - as prophecy70 already has.

Read the context:

38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.”

39 But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. 42 The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.​

We need to ask the questions:
Who came to Jesus demanding a sign?
Who is Jesus talking to?
Whose preaching did Nineveh hear & respond to?
Whose wisdom did the queen come to hear?
Who is Jesus talking about when he speaks of one greater than Jonah, greater than Solomon?
What was the sign of Jonah & how did Jesus demonstrate that sign?
Who comprises this generation in context?
Was the entire Israelite race evil & adulterous?
What about the prophets & history writers & the vast number of the descendants of Abraham who were owned by God as my people?

 

Against my better judgment, Robycop, I am going to answer your question, even though it will do no good. First your either/or question is pointless since you were given Biblical evidence - by me and others - and it didn't show up on your radar. So why write more?

In a nutshell, the core of your misunderstanding is that you think that a lack of visible evidences undermines our spiritual position. It doesn't. The Jews of the 1st century, also, kept looking for the Messiah who would accommodate to their worldly conceptions of Himself and His kingdom. Even the Disciples had to radically change their thinking in order to perceive Christ's message.

The "proof" you are looking for will never come.
Just like the earthly "messiah" the Jews were looking for never came.