Can real atheists exist according to the bible?

[Magnetic Poles]

But what about people which were taught evolution is a fact? I mean they won't believe in God anymore, why should they? If they are brainwashed enough. And also there are people which say they would like to believe in God but they cannot because intellectually there is too much which is holding them back. Doesn't this prove that it's not so easy? Hardcore atheists first of all have to learn that evolution isn't true before they can get faith.
And unless you're a scientists and study creation you also won't see much about intelligent design. The normal person which has no clue of this stuff won't even be able to understand how brilliant everything is designed or does the average person understand how complex a single cell is? Most likely not.

I submit that not all evolutionists are atheist. Some are Christians. It is best not to confuse belief in God with one's belief in a literal or allegorical interpretation of Genesis.

 

[BobRyan]

I would never claim that all evolutionists are atheists. Certainly the RCC has proven that point in triplicate.

BUT it CAN be shown that atheist darwinism IS in fact pure orthodoxy for atheists - and pure compromised-religion for Christians that seek to marry it to God's Word.

 

[BobRyan]

so basicially, this is a "KNow your enemy" topic. I just was givig a strategy for confronting them other than showing our intellictual superiority of their psyche.

I agree. And I would not say this is merely "know your enemy" so much as this is "Know how God is drawing your neighbor to Himself even if your neighbor takes the fools path saying - there is no god".

 

[UnchartedSpirit]

Here's some food for thought taken from page 204 of Ingmar Bergman's autobiograophy "The Magic Latern" Viking Penguin, New York, 1988. English Translation (C) Joan Tate:

"Ghosts, devils abd demons, good, evil, or just annoying, they have blown in my face, pushed me, pricked me with pins, plucked at my jersey. They have spoken, hissed, or whispered. Clear voices, not particularly comprehensible but impossible to ignore.

Twenty years ago, I underwent an operation, a minor one, but I had to be anaestiesized and, due to an error, was given too much anesthetic. Six hours of my life vanashed. I don't remember any dreams; time ceased to exist, six hours, six micro-seconds-or eternity. The operation was sucessful.

I have struggled all my life with a tormented and joyless relationsihp with God. Faith and lack of faith, punishment, grace and rejection, all were real to me, all were imperative. My prayers stank of anguish, eternity, trust, loathing and despair. God spoke, God said nothing. Do not turn from me Thy face.

The lost hours of that operation provided me with a calming message. You are born without purpose, you live without meaning, living is its own meaning. When you die, you are extinguished. From being you will be transformed to non-being. A god does not necessarily dwell amoung our increasingly capricious atoms.

This insight has brought with it a certain security that has resoutely eliminated anguish and tumult,though on the other hand I have never denied my second (or first) lift, that of the spirit."