Can Satan be saved?

You need to define "justice". If God outlines in His Word what justice is...and does contrary to that, He would not be just. Calvinism does just that.

 

Satan

We all are satan, we breath him every day for he is the prince of the air.

Even Peter was called Satan.

Satan cannot be saved, but Jesus can save us from satan

Satan hebrew "accuse"]

 

Your assuming they won't repent you don't know for a fact that they won't. We are all vessles of wrath until the point of Salvation. Salvation changes our destiny. God may not change but, we do, when we are saved.
MB

 

==No. The Devil is predestined to hell (Rev 20:10). He will not repent and God has provided, so far as we know, no way for the devil to be saved.

 

While their is life, there is hope for even the Bertrand Russells of this world. Neither should the skeptics speak like that.

Neither would I say that a skeptic have no opportunity to be saved. God decides that (1 Cor 3:6). Besides, the skeptic is not on the same level as the devil and his minions. Lee Strobel is a great example of a skeptic who came to faith in Jesus Christ as his Savior and Lord.

 

Who said He is less Just, Holy, and Righteous to judge anyone who chooses rebellion to the condemnation God foreknew they would be appointed in due time?

 

I ANSWERED THAT ALREADY!

Anyway, don't forget that satan was created soley for the purpose of service and was already an eternal creature...he is not the same spiritually or physically as we are and can not have the same relationship that God has with us...he was made for another purpose which he chose to go against, and then when he lost takes it out on us!

 

==I would answer that question in the negative. Satan is a slave to sin and evil. Besides can you show me even one Scripture that teaches any created being has freewill? Off the top of my head I can't think of even one. However I can think of several that say that God has freewill.

 

um, Off-topic Martin. Just because the Bible authors didn't invent the termonology of "free will" doesn't mean God couldn't teach it to them. Charles Swindoll just today claimed that the Bible doesn't mention anything about "confrotations" but contains a ton of teachings about it. God could never prove that he made us in His "image" without giving us free will, in fact he would be lying if he tried anyway.

 

==No, not off topic. JD asked the question and I gave my answer.

==Not only is the term not used, the concept is not even taught. Slaves are not free.

==There is an event in history called the fall which corrupted the image of God in man. That is why there is evil in this world. All lost men are slaves to sin (Rom 6:6,16, 8:5-8). It would be my understanding that Satan, and the demons, are in a simular (but worse) condition. I say worse because the Bible gives NO indication that they even could be saved. Man fell and God has provided a way of salvation. Angels fell and there seems to be no offer of salvation made to them. Therefore man can be freed from his slavery to sin, fallen angels cannot.

 

Yes, but Paul emphatically, in fact intensively preaches that Christ offers believers the freedom to choose between good or evil throughout their lifetime before their death & resurrection...Until then Christ gives us the option to serve Him or not...that sounds a lot like free will to me...sinners have just as much freedom to choose as we have...they may never be able to justify their actions without God, but they still can act on their own accord. They are slaves, if anything, to themselves.

 

Again the answer is an emphatic, No!
If God decreed NOW that He has determinded to save Satan, then He would have to violate His decrees ALREADY set forth and thereby CHANGE His Mind, His Word, His Purpose, His Plan, and His decrees. It violates the very nature of God and therefore is not even a hypothetical.

Could God have made a way to save them, Yes.
Can God save Satan NOW? No, He can not. Just as God can not lie which is against charactor/nature, neither can change His mind or alter in any sense His decreed Purposes and Plan.

The priniciple I set first in my first posting about once God is truly and fully revealed and in His presense of Glory (whether spiritually or actually), if one fall away they can not come back. Of a truth they will not desire to come back because knowing God and His glory and the judgment of things to come... those who rebel IN KNOWING these things have strengently set themselves against all that is of God.

Again, an emphatic No.
You are trying to postulate something as hypothetical. But it can only be hypothetical if there is a chance it COULD or MIGHT happen. There is NONE. As I said earlier - God could make angels into fairies but that WILL NOT and CAN NOT happen because it is against those things which God has already set forth. God would have to change in order accomadate your opinion. And IMO - that will never, can never happen. IF you ask is it possible that God COULD have done this (in the beginning) I will answer yes. But can He do it now, it is without question a No.

It is by His knowledge all things are and are done - is it not?
Or
Does God do things on a whim?

No, your not listening. God set forth the condition,. therefore God obligates Himself to continue His purpose and plan as it is according to His good pleasure.
God determined whom He will save and Why and How.
And God determined those who will not be saved and why and how.
God alone saves, God alone condemns, but God decreed man is resposible.

You need to define FREE. Libertarian? Limited?
I believe,yes, Satan (like man) has a limited freedom of the will even NOW.
I actaully use the term 'resposiblity of choice'. That men are resposible for and to the truths Gods reveals to them.
Either belief of the truth unto Life Eternal
or
Rejection of that truth unto damnation.

 

Let me clarify my statement, if I may.

You need to define FREE. Libertarian? Limited?
I believe,yes, Satan (like man) has a limited freedom of the will even NOW.

In speaking on the issue of men, I actaully use the term 'resposiblity of choice' an dnot free-will. it portraies IMO the biblical fact that men are resposible for and to the truths Gods reveals to them.
Either belief of the truth unto Life Eternal
or
Rejection of that truth unto damnation

 

I find myself on both sides of what has been said.

1st side...

humm.


Is this verse true or false? If true..Christ has bound himself to never leave you.
If false...throw your Bible away.

The other side....

well...old timers of the BB can just guess.

 

I agree with Allen

Satan had tasted the good things of God and rebelled. When He chose to go against God, He cannot have what He once had.

We have not yet tasted the good things of God, we still have a chance to be saved and taste the good things of God.

To stand with God no matter what we believe.

To believe Him and His word even over our own evil desires.

We stand with God we cannot be cast down.

Jesus will never leave us or forsake us, but if we disown Him He will disown us, just as the scripture says.

If we go our going proves we never of Him

 

NO!

Because the ONLY ONE that can save HIM has said that HE will not chose to save the devil......