Can you only be saved by reading KJV?

[pinoybaptist]

Sorry, precepts, hit the tab then enter button by mistake, big lumpy clumsy brown fingers, y'know.
As I was saying you're strictly KJV Only and people lump you into the Ruckmanite camp or the Hyles camp, or maybe the Cloud camp. My sympathies, for whatever it's worth to you.
Now, will you please lecture this ignorant brown monkey on the rudiments of regeneration ? Because if you say I don't know what regeneration means, then you just accused every Primitive Baptist, from which many Baptists of today evolved from, courtesy of Black Rock, of ignorance about regeneration.
So, please, share your God-given, KJV only, wisdom, and perhaps, I can convince my people that we are all of us wrong.
Thank you.

 

[Precepts]

Originally posted by Dr. Bob Griffin:
You are following in his error. That is the analogy we are drawing. Ask your pastor about how he learned about the KJVO "doctrine"?

Chick tracts?
Ruckman/Riplinger?
Pensacola Christian College videos?
Hyles or one of his followers?
7th Day Adventists?

No one comes up with a position like "only" without having been influenced by some school of thought.

Hyles was a leader in such influence.

Now you know.

Sorry, Doc, your premise is false, I knew the AV 1611 KJB is the right one since I was twelve in 1972 and I never even heard anything in regards to the debate before, only those who gave an example of some of the different verses in comparison to other versions and the conclusion was left to the hearer. No seminary invovled, no "pastoral" leadership in vovled. This is pre-Hyles and I never heard of Ruckman or Hyles before then or for many years after.

I read the KJB, I read other versions. I kept the KJB and left the other versions where I found them. It's proper etiquette to put things back where you found them. I found God's Word in the KJB, I'll leave it right where I found Him.

What do Wyomanians know about etiquette? All they know is horse-whipping, cattle-prodding, and how to handle cowchips.

 

[Precepts]

Pinoy, yall have been denying Ephesians 2:1-6 since the early 1800's Sir, it will take God and His Word to show you any different. If you can figure out how the dead in tresspasses and sins were actually regenerate from the penalty of sin before having new life your theology will hold, but God has shot too many wholes in your ship with Truth and it sunk as soon as it set out on it's maiden voyage. Yall keep trying to christen a boat that is at the bottom of an ocean without a bottom.

Calvinism has to practice the same dillusive actions as those who promote mv's: re-inventing definitons to already established words.

I don't know why your fingers being brown have anything to do with anything, except maybe your hands either need washing or you are brown all over. In either case it makes no difference to me, just look at Ephesians 2 real close and leave your indoctrination aside, receive the Light of the Gospel and believe!

Dead is dead until regenerate, that should help.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by Precepts:
We're neither Ruckamnites nor "mainstream" Hyles theology folks, We are AV 1611 KJB believer's who know God. I never knew either of these men. I simply base my convictions on the Word of God and not any man.

I just did a Google search on "AV 1611 KJB",
I got nine hits, all from www.baptistboard.com

Go figure

The kindly Google asked me if I
meant AV 1611 KJV. Now that is being
talked other than at Baptist Board (BB),
80 places as I post.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Hey, precepts, you talk bad about God's Word like the NKJV, NIV, NASB and you will get in big trouble. BUT if you talk bad about Wyoming, we know who you are and where you live.

And our women are tough and won't take that kind of talk lightly. Just fair warning. Most of the women in Wyoming are twice the men you or I will ever be!

 

[following-Him]

Precepts, I am sorry but I think you are way out of order in addressing another member in the way you have done so.

Sorry, Doc, your premise is false, I knew the AV 1611 KJB is the right one since I was twelve in 1972 and I never even heard anything in regards to the debate before, only those who gave an example of some of the different verses in comparison to other versions and the conclusion was left to the hearer. No seminary invovled, no "pastoral" leadership in vovled. This is pre-Hyles and I never heard of Ruckman or Hyles before then or for many years after.

All you are doing is showing us that although you have been reading the AV 1611 KJV since you were twelve is that although you have grown in years, you have not matured.

I really don't know why you have to be so hostile to everyone here. We are blessed with some very knowledgeable members here at BB, and it is a wonderful opportunity for you as well as the rest of us to be able to learn from each other.

Followinghim

 

[Dr. Bob]

Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
I just did a Google search on "AV 1611 KJB",
I got nine hits, . . Google asked me if I
meant AV 1611 KJV. Now that is being
talked other than at Baptist Board (BB),
80 places as I post.

Amazing that even the ungodly robots KNOW that the correct title is KJV not KJB.

Would that some of their artificial intell1gence rubbed off on some so sorely lacking ANY intelligence!

 

[HankD]

I've asked this before about the KJVO.

How can you tell if a someone is KJVO?

If it swimmeth, waddleth and quacketh,
it's a KJVO duck!

HankD

 

[Orvie]

Just about everybody tells Quecepts about his methods and manners, etc, so I'm gonna try to follow his post and demonstrate how laughable he is, unless the Moderator says different.

 

[HankD]

But, seriously, I don't believe anyone is saved by reading the Scriptures, or by hearing the preached Word of God. Conversion ? Yes. Saved from the pitfalls of sin in this world ? Yes. Discovering the truth about God as contained in His Word, and thus, experiencing repentance and Godly sorrow ? In all cases, they have already been regenerated before they experienced repentance and conversion.

Was John the Baptist regenerated when in his mother's womb or can an unregenerate be filled with the Holy Ghost?

HankD

 

[pinoybaptist]

HankD asked:

Was John the Baptist regenerated when in his mother's womb or can an unregenerate be filled with the Holy Ghost?

HankD

The Bible says in Luke 1:39-44:

And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;

And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.

And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Apparently, in his mother's womb.

 

[HankD]

Luke 1
13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

So PB, I guess God does what He wants when He wants without asking our permission or consulting our Systematic Theologies.

HankD

 

[Askjo]

Originally posted by PastorSBC1303:
I brought this up in another thread but thought I would throw it up here....A couple years ago I met an IFB KJVO pastor that told me that I was not saved because my mother led me to the Lord using an NIV Bible

I understand if people want to claim KJV as the ONLY Bible, I don't agree, but I understand it is their right. However, to determine a person's salvation by that standard is stepping over the line.

Any others that believe this or thoughts?

Who is KJVO you are referring to???? Which KJVO???
Ruckmanites?
Waiteites?
Gippites?
Riplingerites?
Hylesites?
Strouseites?

 

[DeafPosttrib]

My friend told me, his deaf pastor was saved by NIV many years ago. Now God uses him as a wonderful good pastor, he preaches from KJV. But himself is not KJVO. He said, NIV is partially of God's Word. Even, he said, KJV do have some errors.

I agree with him. I was saved by read New English Version(NEV) without anyone witness to me how to become saved.

KJV does not saved people. NIV does not saved people, NEV does not saved people. etc.. versions do not saved people. Gospel saved people through Jesus Christ only.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

[Precepts]

Originally posted by Dr. Bob Griffin:
Hey, precepts, you talk bad about God's Word like the NKJV, NIV, NASB and you will get in big trouble. BUT if you talk bad about Wyoming, we know who you are and where you live.

And our women are tough and won't take that kind of talk lightly. Just fair warning. Most of the women in Wyoming are twice the men you or I will ever be!

Them Amazon Women from the Moon wooped them Wyomanian cowpokettes 14 to 1 in hawg calling and pig wrastlin' back yonder in '73. I married one in 1984 that was corn fed and harness trained at the age of 2 months. Mebe youin's ort to git sum ettyket from sum i'rn womanfolkes sumtym'?

The NasV still reads "deceived" the KJB still reads "did flatter". I wouldn't deceive narn them wimmin in Why'O'man, but I miten phlatur a few

 

[Phillip]

Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
That is right out of the book:

Romans 10:9 (RRV = ruckman's revised version)

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved with a KJV.

Ed was simply using a "tongue-in-cheek" statement when he said (RRV = ruckman's revised version), but he is absolutely right when he says the Bible (including KJV) does NOT say: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved with a KJV.

 

[Precepts]

Originally posted by followinghim:
Precepts, I am sorry but I think you are way out of order in addressing another member in the way you have done so. </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Sorry, Doc, your premise is false, I knew the AV 1611 KJB is the right one since I was twelve in 1972 and I never even heard anything in regards to the debate before, only those who gave an example of some of the different verses in comparison to other versions and the conclusion was left to the hearer. No seminary invovled, no "pastoral" leadership in vovled. This is pre-Hyles and I never heard of Ruckman or Hyles before then or for many years after.

All you are doing is showing us that although you have been reading the AV 1611 KJV since you were twelve is that although you have grown in years, you have not matured.

I really don't know why you have to be so hostile to everyone here. We are blessed with some very knowledgeable members here at BB, and it is a wonderful opportunity for you as well as the rest of us to be able to learn from each other.

Followinghim </font>[/QUOTE]I don't appreciate you writing that into my post. Dr. Bob's premise was that I got what I believe about the KJB from Hyles and Ruckman. I did not. You're just jumping on the bandwagon of making more accusations than rationalizing the truth.

I may not be as mature as you think I should be, but I'm learning just how mean and disrespectful and presupposing a lot of Baptists are.

 

[Askjo]

Originally posted by DeafPosttrib:
Even, he said, KJV do have some errors.

Will you show me what errors the KJV has? I would like to look at some errors in the KJV.

 

[Orvie]

Precepts-"I may not be as mature as you think I should be, but I'm learning just how mean and disrespectful and presupposing a lot of Baptists are."
Orvie-"mean, disrespectful, and presupposing"? It's bizarre that you actually think this of others, without looking in the mirror. Wow.
At least I admit I'm obnoxious, or I hope I am.

 

[following-Him]

Quoted by precepts:

I may not be as mature as you think I should be, but I'm learning just how mean and disrespectful and presupposing a lot of Baptists are

That is a grossly insulting and offensive statement against a lot of Godly people here.
Do you need to be reminded of what the Bible says about judging others?
If you dislike us that much then why post here?

Brother, you need a lot of prayer to soften that hard heart of yours.

Followinghim.