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Can you put your full weight on a broken ankle?

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Scott Downey

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I know what a sprained ankle is like and no way could I have put any weight on it.

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Ankle Fractures (Broken Ankle) - OrthoInfo - AAOS
Nonsurgical Treatment
If the fracture is not out place and the ankle is stable, it can be treated without surgery.

Treatment may be with a short leg cast or a removable brace. Patients are typically advised not to put any weight on the ankle for 6 weeks.
 
Benjamin

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As a Physical Therapist Assistant and going by the support brace and that he has no assistive device to keep weight off I would suspect his doctor has him as full or partial weight bearing status and that wouldn't be that unusual for minor fx. But going by his facial expression he is over doing it and regardless it would be better to go easy on it. I don't know if it was just luck but he navigated the step correctly by going up with his good foot first but that high step is weird looking and puts more stress on the bad ankle.
 
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Scott Downey

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Benjamin said:
As a Physical Therapist Assistant and going by the support brace and that he has no assistive device to keep weight off I would suspect his doctor has him as full or partial weight bearing status and that wouldn't be that unusual for minor fx. But going by his facial expression he is over doing it and regardless it would be better to go easy on it. I don't know if it was just luck but he navigated the step correctly by going up with his good foot first but that high step is weird looking and puts more stress on the bad ankle.
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Old people may do that high lift as they are worried about tripping by not lifting their foot up enough. My dead FIL (in his mid 80's) was constantly tripping over his feet and falling down, and watching him walk he often would not lift up his feet enough. So I told him about that and then he started making more effort to lift them higher. He eventually died with a broken hip complications of tripping over his feet on a rug. In 2 weeks after the hip operation he was gone, dying in ICU of RDS due to an uncontrollable infection or sepsis or inflammation response one whole side of his body turned mottled, red and blue bruising. We eventually convinced doctor to take him off life support, he had a living will for NO extraordinary measures, and they had already gone well beyond his wishes by sending him to the ICU when he was still lucid. 2 nurses had convinced him to go into the ICU, now he was old and maybe they swayed him somehow, but all of that was against what he wanted.
 
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Scott Downey said:
Old people may do that high lift as they are worried about tripping by not lifting their foot up enough. My dead FIL (in his mid 80's) was constantly tripping over his feet and falling down, and watching him walk he often would not lift up his feet enough. So I told him about that and then he started making more effort to lift them higher. He eventually died with a broken hip complications of tripping over his feet on a rug.
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Yes, it is big part of my job to improve the balance of older people and to help them mobilize safely. To avoid breaking a hip is a main reason I give them as to why they need to train.
Scott Downey said:
In 2 weeks after the hip operation he was gone, dying in ICU of RDS due to an uncontrollable infection or sepsis or inflammation response one whole side of his body turned mottled, red and blue bruising.
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Sadly, this is so common. The elderly decline so quickly when they lay in a hospital bed that is why so many die shortly after breaking a hip. It is so hard to get up and get moving again after a hip fx and the body just shuts down when they stop moving. I tell those able to understand that if they want their life back they have to find the will to get moving again and do it quickly because if they don't or can't the odds strongly in favor that they won't be around much longer. Some hear that and give it everything they got and with help they do quite well and some don't get it or don't care and they don't last long. Getting mobile again is the key, whatever it takes!
Scott Downey said:
We eventually convinced doctor to take him off life support, he had a living will for NO extraordinary measures, and they had already gone well beyond his wishes by sending him to the ICU when he was still lucid. 2 nurses had convinced him to go into the ICU, now he was old and maybe they swayed him somehow, but all of that was against what he wanted.
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Those end of life decisions are tough, I just went through it with my mom a few months ago. Yes, the doctors and nurses can go either way, some are like THIS PATIENT IS DNR don't do anything to prolong their life and others seem to let them suffer as long as possible, but it needs to be up to the person. I got lectured by a doctor once for coaching a woman to do deep breathing and bringing her back, however I defended my actions and believe I did the right thing and would have done the same even if I knew she was DNR - after all she didn't have to do the breathing exercises if she didn't want to. My wife and I went and made a detailed will that included pages of instructions pertaining to end of life situations shortly after my mother's death.
 
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The elderly have brittle bones and get fractures that are not so much a snap as a crumble, even if it is attributed to an activity. It is not the same as the snap of a younger person from an accident or in sports. It is far less violent, and often does not need to be set.

The death rate from hips is scary. I think some of that is hospital error and being dependent on a broken system. Any contact with the medical community is a risk in itself. The faster you have less on contact and become independent, the greater the chances of survival.

Being in the hospital is like children being dependent in drug addicted and abusive parents. The fastest route to independence is the safest one, even if you hurt yourself to get independent.
 
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kathleenmariekg said:
The elderly have brittle bones and get fractures that are not so much a snap as a crumble, even if it is attributed to an activity.
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Yes, and in Biden's case it is yet another strong sign that he is in decline and shouldn't be the leader of the largest free nation in the world and probably won't be for his full term.

Edit to add: - should he somehow manage to even be the President.
 
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Salty

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Are we going to complain about every little thing about Biden

Oh, thats right - that is what we have become accustomed to for the past four years!
So lets go for it !
Why did the MSM not make an issue out of Biden being a draft dodger during Nam?
Did anyone bother to look up his driving record? (remember that DWI about Bush that was 24 years old?)
 
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and it must have been fun getting down form that vehicle as well with a bad foot!
 
kyredneck

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JonC said:
What don't you understand about a fish fry?? Don't y'all have 'em in KY?
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Hey, I know about frying big fish from trot and limb lining the KY River for Flatheads and Buffalo suckers. Just didn't know it was up for discussion. :D

What's your favorite catfish bait?
 
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kyredneck said:
Hey, I know about frying big fish from trot and limb lining the KY River for Flatheads and Buffalo suckers. Just didn't know it was up for discussion. :D

What's your favorite catfish bait?
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Chicken liver is my "go to".
 
kathleenmariekg

kathleenmariekg

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Gymnasts suffer a similar kind of fractures that afflict the elderly. They compete with factures.

I once suffered a broken bone that I did not even have confirmed that it was broken until years later. I had no access to medical care. I did not have the opportunity to rest. I did a bit less when I was not being observed, but for the most part I pushed through the pain and carried on as normal without a peep. If you were to ask anyone that knew me during that period, it is unlikely they will believe that a doctor later diagnosed a bone that was broken badly enough to have healed crooked. It would be counted up to another one of my "lies" or "delusions".

I knew a truck driver that worked for a week with a broken hand, had the break confirmed, and then continued to work with it, not just driving, but also loading and unloading the cargo.

When you push through, there is enough inflammation that the inflammation provides some support.
 
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